Last post on Dec 06, 2013 at 8:03 AM
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#48 of 57 Re: Observations on 2013 after one month w. Ltd [rrgg]
Oct 20, 2013 (6:22 am)
There's a saying that all things are relative. Regarding ventilated seats, someone like myself who lives in Nevada, where the summers can be brutal, is likely to find ventilated seats to be a great boon at that time of year. I know I certainly do.
#50 of 57 Re: Observations on 2013 after one month w. Ltd [davidinnv]
Oct 27, 2013 (4:17 pm)
How's the glare off that chrome?
Also curious if there's any simple voice Nav? Do you still have to speak each part of the address one by one?
#51 of 57 Re: Observations on 2013 after one month w. Ltd [vser]
Oct 28, 2013 (4:27 am)
Yes, a bit of glare, and yes, in my (since traded) 2013 Limited, I had to give directions one by one, but others have said in their models (Touring), they can say it all at once?
Oct 28, 2013 (11:48 am)
I now have 8800+ miles on our car and as I hoped the seats are breaking in nicely and are noticeably more comfortable. Very noticeable on our recent 2000+ mile trip with family members. Mixed bag on rear seats because they have not had much use but interestly one passenger found them very comfortable another not so much. On the way back everyone seemed fine with the seats comfort so break in was already improving rear seat comfort. Terrific road car and loves to run. Faster you go the better it feels until you reach "go to jail speeds" but was very surprised how most motorists ignored the posted speed limits. The average speeds seemed to be 8-10 MPH over in the slow lane except for heavily loaded trucks and 10-15 MPH over and more in the left lane or fast lanes. Amazing! Even at those speeds fully load with 4 passengers and a trunk full of luggage milage hovered around 30MPGs. This is one solid,quiet,effient road burner
Dec 05, 2013 (7:05 pm)
With the addition of tire and wheel choices it would start to look like this:
XLE base with 17"" wheels and tires
XLE base with 18" wheels and tires
XLE premium with 17" wheels and tires
XLE premium with 18" wheels and tires
And so on.
Naturally you could limit the choices to certain models but the effect would be the same, a loss in economy of scale and added production costs per unit.
Lexus charges more per unit for much the same car and offers more wheel and tire choices but the customer pays for the extra choices. Think I am wrong?see if you can find a ES 350 that list for $32,000.00 with full leather seats.
#54 of 57 Re: 2014 Avalon [douglas1]
Dec 06, 2013 (7:18 am)
2016, 2017, 2018, and so on, will be the real test.
#55 of 57 Re: 2013 Wow [poorthingflint]
Dec 06, 2013 (7:26 am)
I was saying, drop one of the current models, and make the LTD a comfortable model, shocks and maybe seats would be all they'd have to do.
#56 of 57 Surprising Results
Dec 06, 2013 (7:54 am)
I'm a big fan of Motorweek on the Velocity channel. This Tuesday they rated large sedans, specifically, the Avalon, Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, Maxima, Azera, Impala and I think the Taurus. Not surprisingly the Impala won. But what is surprising is that the Avalon did not even place in the top 4. I think the other finishers were the 300, Charger and the Azera, although my recollection of finishers 2 thru 4 may be faulty. (You can probably pullup the episode on motorweek.com).
Anyway, I know this is just one opinion, but the Avalon used to be the benchmark in just about everyone's opinion, including Motorweek & Consumer Reports, in the large sedan, non "luxury" category. It's a disappointment to Avy lovers like me, and probably Skip too.
#57 of 57 Re: Surprising Results [jeffm5]
Dec 06, 2013 (8:03 am)
Sure is:) And based on my time with the 2013 Avalon, it's not surprising how it finished, albeit, maybe not against fair competition.
As much as I didn't like it, there's NO way in hell, I'd purchase a Ford, Chrysler, Dodge or Maxima over the Avalon, no way.
Now the Azera É maybe. The Impala, not sure.
I look at longevity, resell, RELIABILITY, and resale and I don't think many of these would or could compare.