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Toyota Corolla, Sedan
#4 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [terceltom]
Jun 08, 2013 (11:36 am)
Paddle shifters on the 4-speed automatic? I'd prefer 6 speeds w/o paddle shifters. Not much use for those paddle shifters with only 4 speeds.
LED headlights are neat, yes. Pushbutton start I can do without, just something else to break and expensive to fix... and only a 3-year warranty on it! I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel vs. having them touching a screen while I drive. Also an expensive gizmo to replace should it break after the 3-year warranty. Rear backup camera is nice of course.
I am trying to figure out why "...the only compact car to still come in under 2900 lbs. enabling the 40 rated mpg" is important. The FE rating is important, but not that the car is under a certain poundage.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to see a big improvement in a car sorely in need of an update. But Toyota clearly cut some corners (and yen) on the update, by retaining the old engine and 4-speed automatic. Personally I would have liked to see the money put into the powertrain vs. technobits like LED headlamps, pushbutton start, touchscreen radios, and paddle shifters.
#5 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [backy]
Jun 08, 2013 (12:06 pm)
I agree you don't need paddle shifters with the four speed transmission, but I understand the "S" model has seven different shift points on their automatic you could use the paddles with. Sounds fun anyway!
#6 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [terceltom]
Jun 08, 2013 (12:26 pm)
That's a CVT. We'll see how fun it is on the road. I've driven CVTs with about 130 hp (ala Nissan Sentra) and there's no "Sport" there.
The base model with 6MT might be pretty nice, if the price is reasonable.
#7 of 37 4-speed auto is for fleet buyers only
Jun 08, 2013 (1:47 pm)
The "L" model is for the fleet market.
Retail buyers will choose from the CVT-iS or the 6-speed manual (S model only).
#8 of 37 Re: 4-speed auto is for fleet buyers only [empoweredbc]
Jun 08, 2013 (3:40 pm)
So no base models will be available to the general public?
Also I see that the push button start is NOT standard.
#9 of 37 Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard?
Jun 09, 2013 (11:39 am)
You get LED headlights and Bluetooth standard, USB/AUX, A/C and power everything. That's not enough for $17k? Really?
Why would people move up in the line if every luxury feature were standard? There are things called options. Not everybody needs a button to start the car.
#10 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [empoweredbc]
Jun 09, 2013 (12:03 pm)
I was just pointing out that someone else claimed push button start is standard. I don't need push button start.
All the features you listed except LED low beams are becoming commonplace in this class as standard features, so it's time the Corolla caught up. The LED low beams are unique in the class so far, but we'll probably see that feature creep into the next batch of redesigns as the cost of LEDs drops.
OTOH, the 4-speed automatic is unique in the class too.
#11 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [backy]
Jun 09, 2013 (8:07 pm)
The 4-speed won't be unique to fleet buyers, which is who will get it on the fleet model "L"
#12 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [empoweredbc]
Jun 10, 2013 (5:49 am)
2013 Corolla L's are sold at dealers in my area today. Why do you think Toyota will limit the 2014 L's to fleet buyers when they don't do that now?
This is a big mistake for Toyota in several respects. One is that if they do sell a lot of L's to fleets, people will drive these cars with the antiquated 4-speed automatics and they won't compare well to the more modern transmissions offered by competitors. So they may pass on the Corolla when shopping for a new car.
#13 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [backy]
Jun 10, 2013 (5:54 am)
Excellent point. You think they would offer the higher end Corollas to the rental fleets anyway.