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#12 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [empoweredbc]
Jun 10, 2013 (5:49 am)
2013 Corolla L's are sold at dealers in my area today. Why do you think Toyota will limit the 2014 L's to fleet buyers when they don't do that now?
This is a big mistake for Toyota in several respects. One is that if they do sell a lot of L's to fleets, people will drive these cars with the antiquated 4-speed automatics and they won't compare well to the more modern transmissions offered by competitors. So they may pass on the Corolla when shopping for a new car.
#13 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [backy]
Jun 10, 2013 (5:54 am)
Excellent point. You think they would offer the higher end Corollas to the rental fleets anyway.
#14 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [backy]
Jun 10, 2013 (7:33 pm)
They will treat it the same way they do with the Camry "L", and Ford does with the Fusion "S". Toyota uses them as price-leaders, as a come on, to advertise a low price, but when you get to the dealer, they bump you up to the LE.
You're not SUPPOSED to look for, or buy, the fleet model, and the dealership will discourage it once you get there. What economy car buyer will turn down an extra 3-4 MPG, and the bells-and-whistles that go along with moving up to the LE?
Why would a retail buyer want the old 4-speed anyway? It will probably lose 3-4 MPG to the new CVTi-S anyway.
Whatever "L" models the dealers have, which won't be many, as the dealer wants to sell higher trim levels, with more options, and higher profit margins, are intended for the fleet department, and are just advertised for pricing purposes only.
Toyota sells most of their fleet allotment in the first 3-4 months of the year, then move away from fleet to retail the rest of the year.
Automotive News puts out that Corolla's fleet is 23% right now, which is second only to Ford Focus. What they don't say is that Toyota will do virtually no Corolla fleet sales the rest of the year.
Toyota sold 10% of the company's cars fleet last year, and Corolla will probably be around 15%, and going down with the all-new model.
#15 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [empoweredbc]
Jun 11, 2013 (8:04 am)
Why would a retail buyer want the old 4-speed anyway?
But Toyota is going to make them anyway, and some will go to dealerships to be sold to retail buyers. And the units sold to rental fleets will eventually wind up in the hands of the individuals who buy cars from the rental outfits.
Other automakers have loss leader trims too. They offer 6 speed automatics, or CVTs. Or 6MTs. At least the new Corolla offers that!
#16 of 37 How Do I Order A 2014 Corolla
Aug 02, 2013 (10:08 am)
I want to order or reserve a 2014 Corolla "S" with a sunroof and in the exterior color white. Are there dealers who will take my deposit now? The dealer for my current 2010 Corolla says he can't/won't deal on a 2014 until the cars arrive. I think they are just disorganized and don't understand that I am serious. The current 2010 Corolla is coming off lease, so there is no trade in issue and I'm a free agent to buy from any dealer willing to deal now. Although there might be some equity worth trying to recapture as part of an old Corolla to new Corolla deal.
Speaking of that, the buy out is $11,300. My car has 25,000 miles and is an "S" is very good condition. Do you think I can get any equity from a dealer as part of a trade?
#17 of 37 2014 Corolla LE Eco offers 30 MPG City 42 Hwy
Aug 25, 2013 (5:02 pm)
It's on Toyota's website under "Future Vehicles"
This would make it the most fuel-efficient gas-powered compact car in America.
So it will have the same 140 HP as the Civic HF, but with 1 MPG better city and hwy.
#18 of 37 first drives are out
Aug 27, 2013 (9:20 pm)
Motor Trend: The car remains more of an improvement for those who will only drive a Toyota than a real Civic- or Forte-challenger, even with those neat LED headlights and a well-tuned CVT. Toyota has been selling Corollas in the U.S. since the late 1960s, and there's a reason the car has survived that long while others have faltered. Pass right by the Toyota dealership if you want a modern compact with exciting driving dynamics.
Automobile: Although the all-new eleventh-generation car is different in almost every way from the model it replaces, this Corolla hasn't really changed. It does the same things -- which is good -- but doesn't do them any better than the competition, which is unsettling to say the least. The 2014 Toyota Corolla has improved, but its competition has improved more.
Apparently the Corolla is from a place where the Ford Focus, Hyundai Elantra, and Mazda 3 are unknown, and even the Chevrolet Cruze, Dodge Dart, and Honda Civic are unappreciated.i>
#19 of 37 What a let down
Sep 02, 2013 (8:27 am)
The new Corolla is going to get buried in this category of smaller vehicles. No new engines, transmissions, suspensions?? Ok, the car is reliable, but so are most vehicles these days. Toyota will make changes when the Corolla starts to loose market share.
#20 of 37 Re: What a let down [guido65]
Sep 02, 2013 (12:38 pm)
It does have new (for the Corolla) transmissions... offers a 6MT and a CVT, although the automatic in the base model is still the old 4-speed.
#21 of 37 A 4 speed automatic....really????
Sep 03, 2013 (2:47 am)
What an embarrassment to still be only offering a 4 speed automatic option in 2014. I would only expect that from General Motors. . . .