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Toyota Corolla, Sedan
#2 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [jimmytulsa]
Jun 08, 2013 (8:41 am)
Well, anything would be an improvement! Some good stuff in the redesign like sharper steering, more back seat room, a 6-speed manual, and better styling inside and out. But... a 4-speed automatic as the base slushbox?!? Are they kidding, when competitors like the Cruze, Elantra, Forte, Jetta, and Mazda3 offer 6-speed automatics as the base slushbox? Also no improvement in the engine for most trims, still a paltry 132 hp/128 ft-lbs. when most competitors offer much more power and still get 40 mpg or close to it.
So, good that the Corolla will be better, but too bad Toyota didn't go the extra mile on the redesign to put the Corolla back into the top tier of small cars as it was many years ago.
#3 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [backy]
Jun 08, 2013 (9:06 am)
I don't believe those other models you mentioned like the Cruze, Elantra, Forte, Jetta, and Mazda3 all have standard LED headlights, pushbutton start, touchscreen infotainment with rear backup camera, and, yes, even paddle shifters. I also believe it's the only compact car to still come in under 2900 lbs. enabling the 40 rated mpg.
#4 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [terceltom]
Jun 08, 2013 (11:36 am)
Paddle shifters on the 4-speed automatic? I'd prefer 6 speeds w/o paddle shifters. Not much use for those paddle shifters with only 4 speeds.
LED headlights are neat, yes. Pushbutton start I can do without, just something else to break and expensive to fix... and only a 3-year warranty on it! I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel vs. having them touching a screen while I drive. Also an expensive gizmo to replace should it break after the 3-year warranty. Rear backup camera is nice of course.
I am trying to figure out why "...the only compact car to still come in under 2900 lbs. enabling the 40 rated mpg" is important. The FE rating is important, but not that the car is under a certain poundage.
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to see a big improvement in a car sorely in need of an update. But Toyota clearly cut some corners (and yen) on the update, by retaining the old engine and 4-speed automatic. Personally I would have liked to see the money put into the powertrain vs. technobits like LED headlamps, pushbutton start, touchscreen radios, and paddle shifters.
#5 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [backy]
Jun 08, 2013 (12:06 pm)
I agree you don't need paddle shifters with the four speed transmission, but I understand the "S" model has seven different shift points on their automatic you could use the paddles with. Sounds fun anyway!
#6 of 37 Re: 2014 Redesigned Corolla out this September [terceltom]
Jun 08, 2013 (12:26 pm)
That's a CVT. We'll see how fun it is on the road. I've driven CVTs with about 130 hp (ala Nissan Sentra) and there's no "Sport" there.
The base model with 6MT might be pretty nice, if the price is reasonable.
#7 of 37 4-speed auto is for fleet buyers only
Jun 08, 2013 (1:47 pm)
The "L" model is for the fleet market.
Retail buyers will choose from the CVT-iS or the 6-speed manual (S model only).
#8 of 37 Re: 4-speed auto is for fleet buyers only [empoweredbc]
Jun 08, 2013 (3:40 pm)
So no base models will be available to the general public?
Also I see that the push button start is NOT standard.
#9 of 37 Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard?
Jun 09, 2013 (11:39 am)
You get LED headlights and Bluetooth standard, USB/AUX, A/C and power everything. That's not enough for $17k? Really?
Why would people move up in the line if every luxury feature were standard? There are things called options. Not everybody needs a button to start the car.
#10 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [empoweredbc]
Jun 09, 2013 (12:03 pm)
I was just pointing out that someone else claimed push button start is standard. I don't need push button start.
All the features you listed except LED low beams are becoming commonplace in this class as standard features, so it's time the Corolla caught up. The LED low beams are unique in the class so far, but we'll probably see that feature creep into the next batch of redesigns as the cost of LEDs drops.
OTOH, the 4-speed automatic is unique in the class too.
#11 of 37 Re: Why would you EXPECT Push Button Start to be standard? [backy]
Jun 09, 2013 (8:07 pm)
The 4-speed won't be unique to fleet buyers, which is who will get it on the fleet model "L"