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#44 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [bpizzuti] by dieselone

Feb 16, 2013 (10:12 am)

The LED fogs are a little garish given how sedate the sedan is in general, but other than that, it's not bad looking, could be a real sleeper. Frankly, I'd say make a V6 version and dump the planned Impala entirely.
 
Is the platform being imported from Australia like the G8, and GTO was? If so, I know it was expensive for GM to bring those cars over, so I if they are doing something similar with the SS, a lower cost, high production model could be cost prohibitive. I'd think it comes down to where it's being built.
 
Overall I like it.

#45 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [dieselone] by uplanderguy

Feb 16, 2013 (10:34 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Feb 16, 2013 10:12 am)
I like the car, but I detest that it's built in Australia.

#46 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [uplanderguy] by ateixeira

Feb 16, 2013 (12:39 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Feb 16, 2013 10:34 am)
Dunno, let GM-USA focus on trucks and crossovers, GM-Europe can do sporty small cars, GM-DAT the tiny cars, and the Aussies can do this and a ute.
 
What's a ute?

#47 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [ateixeira] by busiris

Feb 16, 2013 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 16, 2013 12:39 pm)
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/17/opel-cascada-is-europes-buick-regal-convertib- le-w-video/
 
Wonder if this car will ever make it here?
 
Probably not, at least for several years...

#48 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [busiris] by ateixeira

Feb 16, 2013 (3:07 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 16, 2013 12:45 pm)
Beautiful styling, but that back seat looks pointless. The A5's is useable.
 
I doubt they'll bring it, Eos never sold well.

#49 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [ateixeira] by busiris

Feb 16, 2013 (9:02 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 16, 2013 3:07 pm)
I always felt that the Eos was over-priced for the car you got...
 
Just curious, how roomy is the Chrysler convertible back seat in your father-in-law's (I think it's father-in-law, apologies if I have it wrong) back seat?
 
FWIW, the back seat in the 2010 3-series convertible i have isn't exactly a bastion of roominess...

#50 of 1530 Fleet Sales by circlew

Feb 17, 2013 (6:43 am)

The industry usually sees a surge of fleet sales in the first quarter, but so far this year it is a different story. Fleet efforts by the Detroit 3 and Nissan were subdued in January, while Toyota and Hyundai-Kia made the only aggressive moves.
 
Among the major automakers, fleet sales rose 4 percent in January to 179,000 units, dwarfed by a 19 percent surge in retail volume.
 
Fleet sales represented 16 percent of Toyota Motor Sales' total, double the normal mix for the company. That's up 13 percent from unusually brisk fleet volume in January 2012, said Bill Fay, Toyota brand boss.
 
He said a late start to 2013-model Camry production caused Toyota's fleet bump this year.
 
"It will all balance out by the end of the year and be [back] at the 8 to 10 percent range," Fay said.
 
Hyundai-Kia America fleet sales soared 37 percent in January, hitting 14 percent of the sales mix compared with 10 percent a year earlier. That offset a 2 percent retail decline and gave the Korean brands a net 2 percent gain in volume.
 
But the four automakers with the biggest fleet mix in January 2012 throttled back this year.
 
Despite expanding its offering of commercial vehicles since last year, Nissan North America cut January fleet sales 26 percent, reducing its mix to 18 percent from 24 percent a year ago.
 
General Motors trimmed fleet sales 2 percent while its retail volume jumped 24 percent. That slashed its January fleet mix to 25 percent from 30 percent.
 
Chrysler Group will re-enter the commercial van market this fall with the Fiat Doblo-based Ram ProMaster, but in January fleet volume rose a mere 1 percent.
 
And while Ford Motor Co. boosted fleet volume 17 percent in January, its retail sales grew 24 percent, so the fleet mix dropped a point to 28 percent.
 
Edmunds.com analyst Jessica Caldwell says the replacement pattern for last fall's Hurricane Sandy likely skewed fleet patterns.
 
She said: "Some fleet could have been deferred to ensure retailers had enough units."

#51 of 1530 Re: The 2014 Chevrolet SS [busiris] by ateixeira

Feb 17, 2013 (6:56 am)

Replying to: busiris (Feb 16, 2013 9:02 pm)
Dad and step mom, no prob.
 
The back seat is ok, I think the Avalon vert was bigger, the old Sebring seemed (?) roomier but maybe my standards for comfort have gone up.
 
I'd say adults are ok but I still wouldn't want to be there for a road trip.
 
A surprise to me was the PT convertible, that had tons of leg room. Too bad the structure was a wet noodle. No 4 seat convertible was fun enough so I bought the Miata.

#52 of 1530 Re: Fleet Sales [circlew] by ateixeira

Feb 17, 2013 (6:58 am)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 17, 2013 6:43 am)
Some of those fleet numbers are high, but I wold look at a 6 month period to smooth out the short-term spikes.

#53 of 1530 Re: Fleet Sales [ateixeira] by circlew

Feb 17, 2013 (8:44 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 17, 2013 6:58 am)
12 Month Fleet Sales - 2012
Ford - 30%
GM - 26%
C- 26%
Toyota - 10%
Nissan - 15%
HyuKia - 10%
Honda - 2%

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