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#3224 of 4838 Re: Dodge Avenger... [MrShift@Edmunds]
Sep 05, 2013 (11:32 am)
You must have gotten a dog, or I got the V-6? My rental Avenger moved out smartly enough.
That's one of the biggest reasons I trust CR over all others. Buying the so-called "dogs" just like everyone else seems to give more accurate information than accepting the "ringer" from the manufacturer for testing and reviews.
#3225 of 4838 Re: ACSI Auto Survey [greg128]
Sep 05, 2013 (11:37 am)
All I know is that a 6 year old Neon with 65,000 miles in "good" condition fetched an initial offer of $800 from the Toyota dealer my parents visited for trade-in value.
Was the Toyota dealer being snobby with that low ball offer? Perhaps, but it's a true story.
Frankly, I wouldn't have paid $8.00 for that car knowing what I knew.
#3226 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [uplanderguy]
Sep 05, 2013 (11:59 am)
I personally give myself credit for at least somewhat considering a domestic car in 2013.
I even test drove the new ATS both 2013 and 2014 models in 2.0T and 3.6 variants.
I had to shake my head at the ridiculousness of the overpriced sticker (50K typically equipped), and the fact the dealer must of had 25 or more ATS' on the lot; many of them still 2013 models.
Perhaps with so many on the lot they'd consider a low ball offer on one, but I also shook my head at the "shortened" 70K mile power train warranty.
I felt the car needed refinement and tuning in the suspension and drive train. They absolutely need a dual clutch auto-manual gearbox. And yes, all for about $30K if they are going to put cardboard-like ill-fitting moonroof covers inside.
#3227 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [lemko]
Sep 05, 2013 (12:00 pm)
Yup. Even the Flyers. I'm old enough to remember the "Broad Street Bullies" of the 1970s. I beleive the classic hockey movie "Slapshot" starring Paul Newman was loosely based on them.
The movie was based on the general style of play of minor league hockey in the 70's. Anybody with talent was in the NHL. To make a name in the minors, lots of players became goons in order to attract the attention of the big club.
The Charlestown Chiefs were based on the Johnstown Jets. At some point they renamed themselves the Chiefs in homage to the movie.
#3228 of 4838 Market Share
Sep 06, 2013 (3:06 am)
Nice sales month in August. Here's a quick bottom line on share. (GM did quite well and reduced fleet sales also)
In terms of market share, Ford and Honda were gainers, Hyundai-Kia and VW were losers, while GM, Toyota, Chrysler and Nissan held their ground.
Wonder if that will change much going forward?
#3229 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [robr2]
Sep 06, 2013 (3:54 am)
Johnstown, PA was the setting for fictional town of Charlestown.
#3230 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [lemko]
Sep 07, 2013 (1:52 pm)
I was out truck shopping with a friend of mine this afternoon. Hit Chevrolet, Ford, Toyota and Dodge dealers.
Chevrolet is very close to out of stock on the 2013 Silverados, and the 2014's are high. Ford has a lot of 2013's, no 2014's, and they're dealing. The Toyota dealership was a "pilot fish" operation, and we left after that became obvious. Never even got inside of a truck. I didn't know there were dealers still doing that. Incredibly stupid, alienate your potential customers before they can even look at your cars.
Dodge is high. Very, very high. About $8k higher, bottom line, as a similar model Ford. Hell, their 2013's are higher than 2014 Chevy's. Hard to imagine that they're actually selling any trucks at all.
#3231 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [ohenryx]
Sep 07, 2013 (2:14 pm)
"The Toyota dealership was a "pilot fish" operation, and we left after that became obvious. "
What do you mean by this? Phishing for a sell? I don't get it..
#3232 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [ohenryx]
Sep 07, 2013 (6:24 pm)
"Hard to imagine that they're actually selling any trucks at all."
I just bought a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie. Yeah I could have gotten a better deal on a Ford, but I liked the Ram enough to pay more for it.
The F150 is a great truck, but I don't want to buy new the year before a new model regardless of how much money they throw on the hood.
Plus I don't buy new vehicles often, so I figured I'd buy what I wanted, not what I could get the best deal on.
#3233 of 4838 Re: GM and CUBS fans [dieselone]
Sep 08, 2013 (3:28 am)
Best of Luck with the new Ram. It was Truck of the Year. It did quite well last month in the Top 10 sold.
Vehicle August 2013 Year-to-date
Ford F-Series 71,115 499,050
Toyota Camry 44,713 287,119
Chevrolet Silverado 43,603 328,269
Honda Civic 39,458 230,578
Honda Accord 38,559 256,926
Honda CR-V 34,654 207,643
Ram pickup 33,009 234,642
Nissan Altima 30,976 228,297
Toyota Prius 27,358 170,866
Toyota Corolla/Matrix 26,861 210,296