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#97 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [xwesx]
Apr 12, 2013 (11:15 am)
I guess I'm the only one that doesn't like the looks of Gen 3 Forester. The back is nice, but I don't care for the front, especially the side view; has a big honker (nose).
I also like the looks of the Impreza Sport over the XV. The front fascia of the XV with the integrated fog lights is nicer than the Impreza with "tacked on" fog lights, but I don't care for the rear fascia or the "aftermarket" wheel arch moldings. And the Sport wheels are way better looking than the XV wheels. But, I would like another 1.5" more ground clearance on my Impreza Sport.
P.S. My Impreza Sport doesn't have a fat a.., it's full figured.
#98 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [dcm61]
Apr 12, 2013 (11:35 am)
it's full figured.
With a little more ground clearance, the Impreza would look better balanced even without the extra cladding treatment of the XV.
For the Forester, I think my biggest issues with gen4 are the buggy, protruding lights (front and rear) on it, as well as the flat, uninspired sheet metal on the sides. There's just no life to it. Heck, despite the overall unappealing proportions of the gen1 (98-02, IIRC?), even that car had more life to its shape than the new one.
FWIW, my wife doesn't really like the "nose" on our car when viewed directly from the side either. She says it reminds her of a big shoe.
Everything being equal, if I had to pick a (non-performance oriented) Subaru product to buy tomorrow, it would be a manual trans Impreza/XV.
#99 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [dcm61]
Apr 12, 2013 (11:57 am)
doesn't like the looks of Gen 3 Forester
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
I think the Gen 4 can be a big shocking, but my guess is it will age well. They didn't want to play it too safe.
#100 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [ateixeira]
Apr 12, 2013 (12:31 pm)
I'm trying to imagine my 3100 lb '03 Forester with the '14 drivetrain. OMG, that kind of power AND 35 mpg? I'm all over it.
But, with the '03's noisy frameless front windows, I'm ready for a new car.
#101 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [xwesx]
Apr 12, 2013 (12:31 pm)
Well some likes it chunky some skinny. If all would care for blonds what would happen to the brunettes.
I had a 98 Outback sport 5 speed. Loved the shape the space, road clearence but missed a good turbo on it. Then I got a 2007 WRX, again it got it all but the space. Power, comfort for two people, speed and vicious acceleration. Loved it. From 2008 the WRX looked like any other car on the road with silly light all around. No character at all.
I would never looked at the Forester because it looked like a low slung Jeep with a different grille. A box made of lego. It was missing the Subarus bad boy look.
I picked this time the 2014 Turbo Forester because it is different from the others by its look. It has a good suspension to match the power and the 2.0 L Turbo engine from the WRX. Yes it is autiomatic but you can over ride with the paddles at ANY mode. two sport mode and the X-drive that actually works. It can take off like a rocket with no effort. Downshift without a glitch with the paddles in normal auto but when you gun it just start pushing seamlesly all the way up. Of course in manual you will "change" the gears. Today I drove it first time in a snow and ice storm and barely used the brakes because I was able to downshift to about 5-7 Ml/Hr speed. The all wheel drive with the dynamics control is almost scary how sure footed it is. It definitely beats most cars on the road. On the negative side I hate the dozens of lights and the multitude of silly displays inside. It is like a bloody X-mas tree . But today all cars are like that.
#102 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [once_for_all]
Apr 13, 2013 (3:07 pm)
They're heavier but competitors weigh even more.
#103 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [ateixeira]
Apr 13, 2013 (10:15 pm)
so pudginess is ok, as long as everyone else is more pudgy. I get it. But I'm still not satisfied with the mission creep of the Forester over the years. We are looking at $4 a gallon for a long time to come, and Subaru should be doing a bit better. We own the '12 Impreza hatch, and that is an impressive car when compared to the '03 Forester. That's a major improvement in the base car, and I'd like to see more of the same from the others.
#104 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [once_for_all]
Apr 15, 2013 (7:07 am)
It's a sign of the times. Roofs have to be strong enough to withstand the weight of Deleware on the roof, 75 air bags mandatory, emissions must be clean as a whistle, crumple zones big enough to not injure a jaywalker, etc.
Also, our 09 is a lot bigger than our 98 was, so this 14 model would be enormous next to the original.
Honestly, I think the XV has taken the slot left vacant as the Forester moved up. For sure it has more passenger room, though perhaps not quite as much cargo space, as my 98 Forester.
That begs the question - is there room for something sub-Impreza?
#105 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [ateixeira]
Apr 15, 2013 (7:35 am)
I think you are right, the Gen1-2 Forester would be directly competing with the current Impreza hatch or XV. That wouldn't make sense.
On the other hand, the current Forester is also taking the place of the early Tribeca. Perhaps the next offering on the Forester will be a 7 seater.
Sub-Impreza? I don't think Subaru could stay in the $16-17k price range, which is what they would need to compete against the Versas/Focusses etc.
#106 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [once_for_all]
Apr 15, 2013 (7:45 am)
Yeah, and they'd probably have to make it a cheap car and build it in Mexico or something.
I certainly don't want to see them rebadge a Yaris, either. Must be Subaru DNA.
Length is 175.2" for the XV, sure enough, I recall the 98 was EXACTLY the same length!
Wow, I doubt that's a coincidence. I wonder if that's a size limit for taxes in some part of Japan.