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#91 of 260 My 1st Subaru 2014 Forester
Apr 10, 2013 (1:37 pm)
I started shopping for the sleek looking 2013 Toyota RAV4 and I end up with not that great looking 2014 Subaru Forester. Here are my reasons:
1. Best track record of safety rating of previous forester.
2. Best all wheel drive in the class.
3. Premium model has power seat while Rav4's XLE model does not have. Also, the power seat is better than RAV4's power seat (Limited) since it give you more angle to adjust: The front end of the seat goes down further so that it will not reduce the blood flow like RAV4.
4. Highest ground clearance: 8.7 in vs 6.3 in.
However, a few things I think Subaru needs to improve on this model:
1. The quality of cruise control is not acceptable. The position of the button is not good and it is not smooth to toggle. Among my other cars, Toyota's cruise control is the best and Honda accord's is reasonably good.
2. The style is so so, wondering why Subaru can not learn from the style of best looking luxury cars on the market? I think Subaru needs to revolutionize their designs. The front grill needs to look better. In my view, outback is the only handsome car in Subaru's line.
3. It does not have a tray to put my garbage in.
In all, the pros outweighs the cons by far. That is why I purchased 2014 Forester.
Also, glad that Forester did not use low profile tires which cause problems of damaging the expensive aluminum tires resulting from hitting the potholes on the road.
#92 of 260 Re: My 1st Subaru 2014 Forester [aktennis]
Apr 10, 2013 (4:01 pm)
I agree that huge 19-20" rims on crossovers don't make much sense.
#93 of 260 Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today
Apr 11, 2013 (1:29 pm)
All I can say about the exterior is.... YUCK!!!! I wasn't impressed when looking at the photos online, but I could have lived the rest of my life with the misguided illusion I formed from looking at them as compared to seeing the real thing (and having that blissful ignorance torn away). I'm so glad I have a 2010, and definitely NOT replacing it with a 2014-18(?) model. I'm not sure I would even consider a diesel variant wrapped in this skin (and that's saying a lot). I don't know why Subaru thinks ugly is a requirement for so much of their current lineup. It's like they feel compelled to cycle back and forth between ugly and attractive with each generation.
This car was a base model in steel silver, and I see that they went back to the painted steel wheels of last decade versus the basic steely with hubcab they used on the 2009-13. I don't mind those; I use a set (nearly - from an '07 Forester) just like them for my winter wheels. I like the even more increased interior passenger space. The dash layout is a blocky step backward from last gen, but otherwise the inside looked neat, spacious, and functional, which are all good qualities for an interior.
#94 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [xwesx]
Apr 12, 2013 (7:26 am)
The previous generation looked a little better IMHO, but people are lining up to buy these because of the big back seat and the MPG.
#95 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [xwesx]
Apr 12, 2013 (8:36 am)
I'm not in the "yuck" camp, but more in the "blah". This new one has lost its character (small, nimble, AWD) and gone mainstream. It's hard to tell it from the other dozen small SUV's on the road.
So, the XV continues to look like the next replacement for my '03 Forester.
#96 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [once_for_all]
Apr 12, 2013 (9:39 am)
I think I could be in the "blah" camp if I didn't have a 2010. Going from an '03 to a '14 is blah, but then the '03 wasn't a looker itself (but definitely in the smaller/nimbler category!). The Gen3 is just so sleek and sculpted, it makes the '14 look like a blocky, chunky mess. FWIW, the gen3 also has massive passenger space gains over the '03, but more body roll than any other version (including g4). Not bad, mind you, but noticeably more.
I guess I was just shocked at how repulsive it looked in person to me, as the photos don't give me that impression. The fail is in the details on this one. In contrast, I think the Impreza looks awful in photos (particularly the back end), but don't mind it at all in person. The XV is a visual improvement over the Impreza, as it looks far better balanced given the "fat booty" body style of the Impreza.
#97 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [xwesx]
Apr 12, 2013 (11:15 am)
I guess I'm the only one that doesn't like the looks of Gen 3 Forester. The back is nice, but I don't care for the front, especially the side view; has a big honker (nose).
I also like the looks of the Impreza Sport over the XV. The front fascia of the XV with the integrated fog lights is nicer than the Impreza with "tacked on" fog lights, but I don't care for the rear fascia or the "aftermarket" wheel arch moldings. And the Sport wheels are way better looking than the XV wheels. But, I would like another 1.5" more ground clearance on my Impreza Sport.
P.S. My Impreza Sport doesn't have a fat a.., it's full figured.
#98 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [dcm61]
Apr 12, 2013 (11:35 am)
it's full figured.
With a little more ground clearance, the Impreza would look better balanced even without the extra cladding treatment of the XV.
For the Forester, I think my biggest issues with gen4 are the buggy, protruding lights (front and rear) on it, as well as the flat, uninspired sheet metal on the sides. There's just no life to it. Heck, despite the overall unappealing proportions of the gen1 (98-02, IIRC?), even that car had more life to its shape than the new one.
FWIW, my wife doesn't really like the "nose" on our car when viewed directly from the side either. She says it reminds her of a big shoe.
Everything being equal, if I had to pick a (non-performance oriented) Subaru product to buy tomorrow, it would be a manual trans Impreza/XV.
#99 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [dcm61]
Apr 12, 2013 (11:57 am)
doesn't like the looks of Gen 3 Forester
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
I think the Gen 4 can be a big shocking, but my guess is it will age well. They didn't want to play it too safe.
#100 of 260 Re: Saw my first "in-person" 2014 Forester Today [ateixeira]
Apr 12, 2013 (12:31 pm)
I'm trying to imagine my 3100 lb '03 Forester with the '14 drivetrain. OMG, that kind of power AND 35 mpg? I'm all over it.
But, with the '03's noisy frameless front windows, I'm ready for a new car.