Last post on Nov 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM
You are in the Subaru Forester
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Subaru Forester, Car Buying, Wagon
#49 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 24, 2013 (10:59 pm)
I read your comment again and then looked at pictures of the radios offered in the Forester. The one you're describing is not the one that comes in the Touring model, at least not in The States. I checked the Subaru Canada site since you mentioned kilometers so I guessed you might be Canadian. It looks like Subaru changed the naming convention between Canada and The States. In Canada the Limited is the top of the line and includes the navigation system. In The States, the Touring model is the top of the line and includes the navigation system. You wrote " turn the dial (right knob on the radio) to the station you want, press and hold any of the numbered buttons until it beeps." The touch screen nav/radio does not have a right hand knob or numbered buttons. Although I have not tried it, the radio you describe sounds like it functions the same way most radios do. The one I'm taking about is the touch screen nav/radio which is the same one that's used in the BRZ, the same one that has gotten panned and called the worst in the business. That's a shame because I really like most everything else about the Forester.
#50 of 260 liked the size of the old skool Forester
Mar 25, 2013 (8:35 am)
This Forester is way too bulbous for my tastes, vs the '03 that I own. I need a newer, quieter car, but I am gravitating towards the XV.
Seems like most manufacturers go through mission creep of this type. Yes it sells cars to a new audience, but some of us end up getting creeped out of a re-purchase.
#51 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 25, 2013 (11:49 am)
Yeah-eh, Smokey I'm in Canada but originaly I'm Hungarian and there is my different driving habbits come from. That actually sucks. Why would they do a stupid switch like that. Just to create confusion?
Well, go back to the radio. Yes it is a normal radio that I have been driving with for decades, and like the Flintstone's stione axe it work like a charm all the time. I did not pick the Limited or Touring in the State side because I could not justify the cost for the return. I have a perfect Garmin GPS and the rest is just X-mas decoration.
Having WRX before to me performance goes ahead of frills and that is why I picked the simpler Turbo model. Actually this clip was the final decision maker with me. It is written 2013 on the clip but it is the 2014 model:
I live close to the US border and we deal with lots of snow. This was the real selling point and not full leather seats or bunch of cameras.
#52 of 260 Re: liked the size of the old skool Forester [once_for_all]
Mar 25, 2013 (3:48 pm)
I know what you mean, John. They did that to me with the Outback. I had three of those, then switched to a Forester in 2010 because I just couldn't stomach what they did to the Outback model.
Don't get me wrong, I love the passenger space in the newer cars (and don't miss the lack of it at all in the previous Forester or Outback, especially the rear seat room), but they gave up so much when they changed them - much of which didn't have to be given up at all (such as handling characteristics).
#53 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [laszlo9]
Mar 27, 2013 (7:58 am)
The Forester has the same navigation/radio system as the BRZ. Edmunds describes it in their long-term road test of the BRZ. They think it's as bad as I do. Edmunds BRZ Long-Term Road Test
#54 of 260 Re: liked the size of the old skool Forester [xwesx]
Mar 27, 2013 (8:05 am)
OT, but I'd take the bigger Outback in a Baja package. That would be my dream vehicle.
#55 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 27, 2013 (12:33 pm)
I agree. I'm happy that I picked the one without the navigation system. The car runs very well and I have a normal radio. My existing Garmin does a good jub to get me where I want to go. If there would be serious equipment or power difference than you might need to think. This way you can avoid headaches and for 3-4 hundred bucks you can get a super Sat-Nav unit.
I already pulled some wires and had the GPS fixed that anyone looks at it thinks it is built in.
If you want I can take a shot at it.
#56 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [laszlo9]
Mar 29, 2013 (2:52 pm)
Sure, take a shot. I'd like to see how it turned out.
BTW, what kind of mileage are you getting?
#57 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 30, 2013 (2:20 pm)
As for milage I'm not sure yet. I got about 300 miles on the machine. That is peacefull city driving and a couple of highway spurts up to about 75Ml/Hr. It is the break in period. One thing I know is that what i do and the way i drive the car is far from my normal driving so it doesn't even count. With my WRX on a 340 Mile run I could have $11.00 difference driving at 75 Ml/Hr or 90 Ml/hr. I will be going to a run next Sunday wich is about 250 miles there and back, after that i can give you a more accurate figure.
After a 1000 Miles will have an oil change then will be a bit of pushing.
You can download the images from the server I have posted on. Here is the link;
I was pulling the power from the center console storage box to the GPS, and the second wire is the AUX audio In from the GPS to the radio.
Hope it is clear enough.
#58 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [laszlo9]
Mar 31, 2013 (5:13 am)
Was wondering if you are noticing any jerky motions when you are decelerating? I had heard this is one of the properties of the Subaru CVT transmission.
I know you are still in the engine break in but do you have any impressions as to low end torque?