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#47 of 260 2014 Forester XT Touring
Mar 24, 2013 (2:21 pm)
I just bought the 2014 Forester XT Touring. Have about 500 Km on it. Before this I had a 2007 WRX 5 speed and before that an Outback sport. So to say I know why I bought Subaru again. There are few cars can beat the surefooted all wheel drive of a subie. Driving standard most of my life it was a big decision to go over to automatic but my wife had a hip replacement and the WRX was very low to get into.
Coming from Europe my driving pattern is far off of the North American norm. Love driving in snow storms and ice.
So my pros and cons after a week of driving.
There is a suggested break in period of a 1000 Ml or 1600 Km. During that time one should NOT use the paddle shifters or cruise control and the X drive. I guess for the CVT to have a proper workout.
Concerning the radio. It is just a simple setup: turn the dial (right knob on the radio) to the station you want, press and hold any of the numbered buttons untill it beeps. You can set up your favorite's one after the other. That is it. From then on you can shift station and change volume on the steering wheel. It is simple. DONT BOTHER with menues.
First what I like:
The engine is sweet. It is the new WRX machine. Quick with lots of torque. (I'm still being a good boy and running it according suggested pattern like, NO over 4000 RPM yet).
Runs at a bit over 2000RPM at about 75 Ml/ Hr.
The whole car is super quiet, there is no vibration at all (the engine supports are liquid)
Lots of room front and back. I'm 6.2 and have a lot more space than I would need.
Easy to get in and out because the doors open wider. The moon roof is great.
I had no chance to hear the double exhaust at this point.
Most likely it could use better tires but tracks well and cornering is typical to Subaru's surefooted way. It is not like the WRX being a taller box, but the low center of gravity make things work.
I like the backup camera even though I wear glasses. Better than nothing.
Now what I DONT like.
No Coolant Temperature Gauge just an Idiot Light. No fuel Gauge but a digital bar readout.
The upper display is like a bloody text message center that I found it totaly useless. The major focus is the fuel economy on it and it is approached from different angles. For most you need engineering degree to figure out. Some could be usefull for the mechanics for servicing etc. I disabled most of it but a few it would not let me. I will see if I can get those later.
I would like to have: coolant, transmission, turbo temperature, turbo boost, fuel gauge, electrical values etc. on that. If you are a fuel economy minded person get a Prius and not a car with a turbo charger on it.
#48 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [laszlo9]
Mar 24, 2013 (4:56 pm)
Thanks for your take on the radio.
I'm very interested in what kind of MPG you get. I've checked Fuelly.com but no one has reported yet.
#49 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 24, 2013 (10:59 pm)
I read your comment again and then looked at pictures of the radios offered in the Forester. The one you're describing is not the one that comes in the Touring model, at least not in The States. I checked the Subaru Canada site since you mentioned kilometers so I guessed you might be Canadian. It looks like Subaru changed the naming convention between Canada and The States. In Canada the Limited is the top of the line and includes the navigation system. In The States, the Touring model is the top of the line and includes the navigation system. You wrote " turn the dial (right knob on the radio) to the station you want, press and hold any of the numbered buttons until it beeps." The touch screen nav/radio does not have a right hand knob or numbered buttons. Although I have not tried it, the radio you describe sounds like it functions the same way most radios do. The one I'm taking about is the touch screen nav/radio which is the same one that's used in the BRZ, the same one that has gotten panned and called the worst in the business. That's a shame because I really like most everything else about the Forester.
#50 of 260 liked the size of the old skool Forester
Mar 25, 2013 (8:35 am)
This Forester is way too bulbous for my tastes, vs the '03 that I own. I need a newer, quieter car, but I am gravitating towards the XV.
Seems like most manufacturers go through mission creep of this type. Yes it sells cars to a new audience, but some of us end up getting creeped out of a re-purchase.
#51 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 25, 2013 (11:49 am)
Yeah-eh, Smokey I'm in Canada but originaly I'm Hungarian and there is my different driving habbits come from. That actually sucks. Why would they do a stupid switch like that. Just to create confusion?
Well, go back to the radio. Yes it is a normal radio that I have been driving with for decades, and like the Flintstone's stione axe it work like a charm all the time. I did not pick the Limited or Touring in the State side because I could not justify the cost for the return. I have a perfect Garmin GPS and the rest is just X-mas decoration.
Having WRX before to me performance goes ahead of frills and that is why I picked the simpler Turbo model. Actually this clip was the final decision maker with me. It is written 2013 on the clip but it is the 2014 model:
I live close to the US border and we deal with lots of snow. This was the real selling point and not full leather seats or bunch of cameras.
#52 of 260 Re: liked the size of the old skool Forester [once_for_all]
Mar 25, 2013 (3:48 pm)
I know what you mean, John. They did that to me with the Outback. I had three of those, then switched to a Forester in 2010 because I just couldn't stomach what they did to the Outback model.
Don't get me wrong, I love the passenger space in the newer cars (and don't miss the lack of it at all in the previous Forester or Outback, especially the rear seat room), but they gave up so much when they changed them - much of which didn't have to be given up at all (such as handling characteristics).
#53 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [laszlo9]
Mar 27, 2013 (7:58 am)
The Forester has the same navigation/radio system as the BRZ. Edmunds describes it in their long-term road test of the BRZ. They think it's as bad as I do. Edmunds BRZ Long-Term Road Test
#54 of 260 Re: liked the size of the old skool Forester [xwesx]
Mar 27, 2013 (8:05 am)
OT, but I'd take the bigger Outback in a Baja package. That would be my dream vehicle.
#55 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [smokey100]
Mar 27, 2013 (12:33 pm)
I agree. I'm happy that I picked the one without the navigation system. The car runs very well and I have a normal radio. My existing Garmin does a good jub to get me where I want to go. If there would be serious equipment or power difference than you might need to think. This way you can avoid headaches and for 3-4 hundred bucks you can get a super Sat-Nav unit.
I already pulled some wires and had the GPS fixed that anyone looks at it thinks it is built in.
If you want I can take a shot at it.
#56 of 260 Re: 2014 Forester XT Touring [laszlo9]
Mar 29, 2013 (2:52 pm)
Sure, take a shot. I'd like to see how it turned out.
BTW, what kind of mileage are you getting?