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#117 of 260 Drove a Premium MT
Apr 18, 2013 (4:53 pm)
I stopped by the dealer last night on the way home and took a 2014 Premium manual transmission model for a test drive.
The dealer let me go alone, and I took a rural route that covered about 12 miles, about half twisty and hilly with patchy roads and about half freeway.
By way of background, I normally drive a 2007 Impreza 2.5i manual, and my daughter has a 2010 base model Forester with a manual transmission, which I've driven, so I know the brand.
The new Forester handles terrifically on the rough, curvy roads. For what it is, an SUV, I was very impressed at the controlled ride. The suspension was firm enough not to roll excessively in the corners, but it still absorbed the bumps, rough pavement and potholes very well.
The gear ratios are very well spaced. Working the gears through the hills and curves was a pleasure, and there weren't any obvious gaps. On the freeway at 70 mph in 5th gear, the tachometer is at about 3,000 rpms. In 6th gear at 70 mph, the tach is about 2,500. That means the 6th gear will be very usable. (I have a Nissan Frontier in which the 6th gear is so high it hardly ever gets used.)
Note that this is likely where the CVT transmission racks up the better mileage. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess that when cruising on flat or downhill stretches it can drop the rpms down closer to 2,000.
Wind noise was surprisingly quiet. For an inexpensive small SUV, the cabin was relatively quiet, quieter than my Impreza and also quieter than my daughter's 2010 Forester.
The seats were very comfortable for the short time I was driving.
My only complaint is with the radio. I turned it on to a station that should have come in very clear in that area, and it sounded like there was bad reception. I know the radio in my Impreza is pretty lousy, and it looks like Subaru is carrying on that tradition.
#118 of 260 Re: Drove a Premium MT [fandango]
Apr 18, 2013 (5:08 pm)
The stereos have been weak since....forever?
I say it is time for a full tech reboot, maybe even use a version of Entune.
#119 of 260 Re: Drove a Premium MT [fandango]
Apr 18, 2013 (5:16 pm)
I got a 2014 XT with the CVT At 70Ml/Hr the tach is around 1900-2000.
I had 3 Subaru's but no problem with the radio. Even this one with the little stubby one works well. My WRX had the antenna in the rear window glass and was still OK. I would look into the antenna. There might be a way to add a signal booster to it. Yes they are very quiet and what is uncanny that there is no vibration from the engine at all. At idle is like you are sitting in a limo.
#120 of 260 Re: Drove a Premium MT [laszlo9]
Apr 19, 2013 (9:39 am)
Must be almost no engine noise at that speed.
#121 of 260 Re: Drove a Premium MT [ateixeira]
Apr 19, 2013 (12:58 pm)
At 1900 barely any. Actually I'm missing the roar of the WRX even though the XT has the new WRX engine and turbo. If I put it in Sport Sharp mode than I get the sound.
#122 of 260 Re: Drove a Premium MT [laszlo9]
Apr 19, 2013 (2:22 pm)
Have you been recording your mpg? I'm interested in knowing how the turbo does. It looks like, according to reports on Fuelly, that the 2.5 is getting about 27 mpg so far.
#123 of 260 Re: Drove a Premium MT [smokey100]
Apr 19, 2013 (2:27 pm)
Now I'm jealous...
#124 of 260 Can you share your invoice price on '14 Forester 2.5i CVT Premium/Limited?
Apr 20, 2013 (4:25 pm)
I am new to the forum. I look to buy a '14 Subaru Forester 2.5i CVT Limited SUV. The best invoice price I've gotten is $27,050. If you have a better deal please kindly lemme know.
May 03, 2013 (8:02 am)
Didn't know this thread was going so some catchup:
Compared to '09 XT I traded in for '14 XT, '14's nicely refined and improved in almost every way. Much better rear suspension; banished are pogo, boings, rattles over bumps. Quieter on nearly all roads. No more 4-speed hard shifts and hesitation: new CVT's much smoother. S# mode's kinda gimmicky but S mode makes vehicle more responsive. Better poised during turns; XT has firmer suspension that still soaks up bumps and potholes well. X-Mode definitely improves traction on marginal surfaces. Got 29 mpg for mixed mode trip driving, and nice to know I can use regular fuel (though with 10% power loss.) Doors and entire vehicle feel more solid. Seats kinda hard with little bolstering, but plenty of interior room. Most controls very easy to use save for Nav system's tiny icons (awful voice recognition doesn't help). Trade in was almost $16K for 5+ year old '09 XT and 20K more completed sale: new one doesn't have eyesight nor other new electronic systems (wanted to give Subaru time to work out bugs).
In general, happy. However, once winter comes, the Bridgestone Duelers will get replaced as they have terrible ice traction.
FYI, all those journalists yelling for a manual trans on XT forget that Subaru once sold XT with a manual, and hardly anyone bought them. Given that XT's are roughly 5% of Forester sales, that made a manual hard to justify.
#126 of 260 Re: '14 XT notes [kurtamaxxxguy]
May 04, 2013 (1:48 pm)
I have been experimenting with my 2014 XT and there is something that was a big positive plus for the automatic. (have not driven automatic since the 70s) and that is that you can always use the paddle shifter at any mode but if you are in auto it will resume D for auto. For example the gimicky S and S# modes and even the I mode if you approach a turn or you are on the slick ice or whatever, you can downshift and the engine break works like a charm it will give you the option to upshift but give it a bit of gas and it is back in Drive. As long your foot is off the gas it will engine break. In the I mode it is more soft in S you will hear the engine and in S# it will throw you in the belt. I'm not using the full manual mode at this point but lots of downshift and occasional upshift in automatic mode.
You will really have to watch the S# especially when going uphill. If you gun it it will snap your head into the headrest and I was glad I adjusted close enough to my head.
I suggest try to work the downshift first untill you get used to moving fingers and not leavers on the console. At this point I always shift into S or S# mode at tricky left hand turns or at entry into a highway. After it is done I switch back to the I mode for crusing.
And yes the voice recognition is trash, but I'm glad I didn't opt for thr GPS because I have one so I have a good and easy radio to deal with.