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#23 of 56 Re: 2013 Accord EX 6 spd [beav6]
Apr 03, 2013 (5:12 am)
Looking around ... not many people talking here ... OK, I would look at the "EPA Fuel Economy", not at the "Unofficial MPG Estimates from Vehicle Owners ":
So on highway, the V6 running on 3 cylinders burns more gas than the 4 cyl running on all its cylinders. I agree the difference is small. But the real difference is in city driving when all 6 cylinders stay turned on (Honda couldn't turn off 3 cylinders when waiting at the red light, because the engine would vibrate like crazy).
If you ask about my car (2012 Accord, 4 cyl, manual), the most economical value I got was 6 liters per 100 Kms, which is 39mpg. This looks better than the best EPA value for my car, but a bit worse than the NRC value:
Canadian and US values don't match for the same car. Because the testing method is different. Canadians test highway driving at very low speed (48 mph - not realistic). US testing is more realistic. For instance to get that very economical value for my own car, I drove on side roads at relatively low speed (around 50-55 mph) for many hours, without many stops (this gets better mileage than going high speed on highway, because of the high friction with the air at high speeds). Nobody drives at 48 mph on US highways. Here in Canada, on these curvy side roads, you can drive for hours at relatively low speed.
At least you didn't buy a V8 4x4 Hummer to take the kids to the soccer practice. I saw it done.
#24 of 56 Re: 2013 Accord EX 6 spd [rodut]
Apr 03, 2013 (6:28 am)
Thanks for the info Rodut. You're correct, of course, when we're sitting at a light or around town. We just completed our first highway trip of aprx 1200 miles and got between 38 and 40 mpg. Manual calc was right with the car computer calc. Most of our driving is highway so I don't think ou Accord will compelety spoil the air you breath.
#25 of 56 Re: 2013 Accord EX 6 spd [beav6]
Apr 03, 2013 (6:39 pm)
Highway involves speeds way higher than my 50-55 mph. So poorer mileage. Even if we had the same engine.
Was it downhill all the time ?
#26 of 56 Re: 2013 Accord EX 6 spd [rodut]
Apr 04, 2013 (4:44 am)
Nope, St. Louis to Athens Georgia has as much uphill as down (Tennessee mountains). We drive 70 to 75 mph and go thru several stop & go towns like Nashville and Atlanta. I was pleasantly surprised by the gas mileage as our 2008 V6 wouldn't do more than 30 mpg. By the way, you're cold cylinder theory is as least a little more credible than the global warming bit
#27 of 56 FRom Aura TL to Accord EXL V6
Apr 04, 2013 (5:19 am)
I have a one month old Honda Accord EXL V6 and am totally happy with it. My lease was up on my 2010 Acura TL, and though I loved the TL, I just could not see a major difference in my TL to the new 2013 Accord, other than handling. The interior in the Honda is every bit as nice or nicer than my TL was (granted the TL came out in 2009). Acceleration is on par and gas mileage is about 25% better in town and about 35% better on the highway. Much more room in backseat and trunk and much better visibility. TL had some pretty bad blind spots. That is huge difference. I just could not justify a $6,000 difference in price. And, on top of that, I got a $4,000 discount on my car from my local Honda Dealer, so I bought it and did not lease this time. I plan on keeping this car 8 to 10 years. Besides the Accord, I looked, from a lease standpoint, at another TL, ES 350, Avalon, BMW 3 series and a few others. From purchasing standpoint, I looked at Altima, Camry, Optima, Fusion. My view was Accord V6 was significantly better than all other alternatives with the exception of the Fusion. I think Ford has done great job with that car and if it was not for the horrible "My Ford Sync" system, I may have bought the Fusion. The mainstream manufacturers have done a fantastic job upgrading the main street midsize sedan. They now rival the entry level luxury sedans in many ways and the price difference makes them great options versus, for example, an ES 350.
#29 of 56 Re: 2013 Accord EX 6 spd [rodut]
Apr 04, 2013 (7:33 am)
Not so fast rodut. I clocked 42 mpg on my 2013 touring driving 100% highway at ~60mph for 250 miles. Even though 250 miles is a short distance and the route didnt have much change in the altitude, 38 mpg for a the new V6 is possible.
#30 of 56 Re: FRom Aura TL to Accord EXL V6 [marcus216]
Apr 04, 2013 (7:56 am)
I agree that midsized sedans have improved tremendously. Our previous vehicle was a Nissan Maxima (granted, an '01), and the Accord is so much better that we didn't even look at a new Maxima. The Maxima is now very large and it continues to require premium fuel. We got the 4 cyl Accord and love it so far. Visibility is excellent. It has all the premium features we want: heated leather seats, lane watch, backup camera, nice stereo (not as good as the Maxima Bose but much better than average), great touch screen connectivity and access to Pandora and XM. Didn't get nav because we don't need it with a smartphone, which connects beautifully too. It's amazing that so many features that once were only available on cars like the Maxima and Acura have now become standard on many midsized sedans.
Apr 04, 2013 (9:55 am)
Several personally-directed posts have been removed. You know who you are. Let's keep the conversation focused on vehicles rather than on each other.