Last post on Oct 03, 2013 at 10:06 AM
You are in the Subaru XV Crosstrek
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Subaru XV Crosstrek, Wagon, SUV
#42 of 51 Re: hybrid... [tinycadon]
Sep 18, 2013 (2:27 pm)
direction is important, a couple mph with or against the wind could make that kind of difference.
Glad to know it is giving you 30+. Our Impreza hatch w/CVT is doing consistent 33-34 mpg average overall.
#43 of 51 Re: hybrid... [tinycadon]
Sep 19, 2013 (5:14 am)
What kind of mileage do you get in city or local driving?
#44 of 51 Re: hybrid... [designman]
Sep 20, 2013 (7:42 am)
City driving drives it down to around the 20mpg range, depending on season, summer 20-22, winter 18-20. When it's suburban driving I can get 27-30mpg depending on traffic conditions. Hand calculated mpgs & 10% ethanol, overall I can't complain about EPA sticker figures and what my real world numbers are.
#45 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [once_for_all]
Oct 01, 2013 (2:58 pm)
If they put a diesel in the Passat Alltrack, that's a potential winner for me. I'm not confident that VW wouldn't try to rake buyers over the coals on the price, but a diesel AWD wagon would definitely catch my attention. Put it in at <$30K (well-equipped) and ~35-38 mpg? Yes, please!
#46 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [xwesx]
Oct 02, 2013 (11:49 am)
Such a vehicle would be very nice, but after ownership of multiple (8!)Audi and VW models including diesel I'm sure they would require tender loving care from the dealer at many inconvenient times. My Subaru experience with 4 vehicles (Legacy, Outback and two Foresters) has been add gasoline and change the oil. If I had kept them long enough for the dreaded head gasket problem to occur, my opinion might be different. The new Subaru designs should end that high mileage costly problem. VW and Audi AFAIK are still very nice to drive but not nice to own.
#47 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [saedave]
Oct 02, 2013 (1:40 pm)
I hear the same about VW, and have had the same experience as yours with Subaru. No head gasket problem on my '03 XS after 171k.
#48 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [saedave]
Oct 02, 2013 (4:30 pm)
I like my Subarus, but I'm likely not going to buy another one unless it comes with a diesel engine. Happily, my '10 Forester w/ MT only has 69,000 miles on it, so I can keep it a good long while before I start to get antsy for a replacement.
#49 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [xwesx]
Oct 03, 2013 (7:55 am)
I'm surprised that with your local climate you would like a diesel. My winter Audi diesel experience included adding kerosene to the fuel to prevent jelling.
Starting here in Chicago was better than Mercedes' diesels by about 10 degrees F, but still problematic. A plug-in dipstick heater is a needed accessory. The last car I remember that needed that was my father's 1948 Cadillac which was the last year for a Cadillac with a 6 volt battery!
#50 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [saedave]
Oct 03, 2013 (8:12 am)
Well, we don't use #2 (standard in most places) diesel here during the winter months. All the pumps carry #1 (essentially kerosene) from October through April. Gelling really isn't an issue unless you don't use the vehicle on a regular basis.
I haven't had a diesel up to this point, as the only thing with them is essentially trucks and VWs, and I don't need another truck. I'm excited about the expansion of diesel in the market, so with two relatively new daily drivers in the stable, I'm in no hurry. I just like to watch the offering list.
#51 of 51 Re: vw likes XV sales numbers [xwesx]
Oct 03, 2013 (10:06 am)
#1 diesel probably would have prevented a near disaster for some friends here whose Mercedes got jelled fuel while cruising at 60 mph on a remote country road. They were rescued by the highway patrol.
Since the Subaru diesel seems to need an additive system to meet pollution controls here,and Subaru has not built one.....the wait could be extensive. I believe the new high torque capacity CVT now used in Australian Subaru diesels might solve the other problem of an adequate automatic transmission. Some of us might prefer manual, but most of the public can't drive one.