Last post on Nov 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM
You are in the Ford Escape
What is this discussion about?
Ford Escape, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Please note the engine, AWD/FWD, type of gas you buy, and something about the type of driver you are and your driving conditions (city/highway, commuting) when you post about your mileage.
#62 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [automelon48]
Nov 02, 2012 (4:32 pm)
I did actually use Premium fuel once and did notice an average around 25mpg highway, the only time the car went above 23mpg. I'll try again. I'll also double check if the Premium didn't have 10% ethanol.
Yet, my response is still the same. If the sticker on the window says 21/24/28, then the numbers should be close - especially for the city number. To be 20% less puts this car at the same mileage as the previous V6. The whole point of this new Ecoboost engine is better fuel economy. It's Fords main marketing point and why they no longer offer the V6. Yet, based on what I've read on this great forum, sounds like it varies from car to car - so there is hope something can be tuned to improve fuel economy. Love to hear what you get!!!
#64 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [fortherock]
Nov 02, 2012 (6:17 pm)
Many years ago high compression engines needed/required premium fuel. But only when the effective compression ratio approached the base/native compression ratio. Nowadays the engine ECU simply enriches the mixture slightly if the effective compression is reached.
So, unless you are of the "boy-racer" mentality or simply a leadfoot, regular fuel will yeild just as good FE as premium and at lower pump cost.
#65 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [wwest]
Nov 02, 2012 (7:36 pm)
I agree with you, but in many places the only way to get pure gas, it to buy Premium (91). I suggest it ONLY if it ensures that it is Ethanol free. The EPA tests the vehicles on 100% gas, so the only fair comparison is for us to test with 100% gas. I live in Western Canada and some stations will sell Regular 87 without Ethanol and others only guarantee that their 91 is Ethanol free. Shell Canada says on their website that all of their Premium pumps are Ethanol free.
Hey, it's worth a try.
#66 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [automelon48]
Nov 03, 2012 (8:32 am)
I have a 2013 2.0 AWD Titanium with 3200 miles. I used 87 octane on my first two fill-ups and was getting poor gas mileage (21.3 mpg combined). I switched to premium (91 octane) and saw immediate improvement in gas mileage (26.3 mpg). For my last 3 tankfuls I used 87 octane. My combined mileage with 87 octane is 22.4 mpg. Don't know the ethanol content of either. Regardless of the economics, environmentally it is worth the added cost and I will go back to premium fuel when available.
#67 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [automelon48]
Nov 03, 2012 (11:53 am)
all 91 octane doesn't have No ethanol, you have to make sure that it doesn't. in most areas, you can find no octane in any grades, though it's getting harder to find. No ethanol gas does improve your gas mileage, and it usually is 15% higher in price. I had been putting no ethanol in my 300C, but it's getting so hard to find, I no longer do. But my gas mileage averaged 23 mpg compared to 20 with ethanol.
#68 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [fortherock]
Nov 04, 2012 (5:55 pm)
Hate to inform you but the EPA does its Mileage tests with 100% Gasoline
They do NOT, repeat Do NOT use Ethanol in their testing for mileage!!!
Premium Gasoline Does contain up to 10% ethanol as well.
Check for yourself about 3/4 down the page.
#69 of 626 Re: 2013 Escape 2.0 [bigmclargehuge]
Nov 04, 2012 (5:59 pm)
Do EPA fuel economy estimates account for the use of ethanol blends that are common today?
No. The EPA fuel economy tests use 100 percent gasoline, and no adjustments are made to account for ethanol. Most conventional vehicles using E10 (10 percent ethanol) will experience a 3 to 4 percent reduction in fuel economy.
Why don't EPA fuel economy tests use ethanol-blended gasoline now that most gasoline contains ethanol?
EPA fuel economy tests are conducted according to Federal testing regulations which require 100 percent gasoline. These regulations could be changed, but changing them would be somewhat problematic. While it is common for gasoline pumps to allow for up to 10 percent ethanol, the actual amount of ethanol blended into the gasoline varies greatly, and fuel blending requirements vary by state. Changing the test methods would also make it difficult to compare vehicles tested with ethanol blends with those tested with straight gasoline. So, without a national standard for blended regular gasoline and a Federal mandate to change the test fuel used, the EPA will not change the test fuel.
Now do you feel you have been LIED to?
#70 of 626 Gas at Most Marinas in Ethanol Free because
Nov 04, 2012 (6:09 pm)
Because Ethanol destroys Boat engines and their Gas lines and other power equipment, Therefore the EPA allows marinas and some Landscapers (professional) know where to buy Ethanol free fuel as well as it destroys their power equipment as well even when treated with marine grade stabil!
#71 of 626 Intelligent 4x4 screen.
Nov 07, 2012 (9:21 am)
I usually drive in the "Intelligent 4x4 screen" to see how much power is being applied to the front wheels. I have noticed that ALL the tires have power applied during takeoff and to about 200 or 300 yards and maybe farther (getting on it and sneaking up on it makes no difference).
I was wondering how many of us getting 22-23 mpg are seeing power applied to ALL wheels during this time...
I brought this up to my service tech and he didn't have a good answer yet.
Passed 2000 miles and climbing, regular fuel, still no better than 22 to 23 mpg 60/40 split.