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Ford Escape, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
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#59 of 565 Re: 2013 Escape 2.0 [bigmclargehuge]
by fortherock
Nov 02, 2012 (4:53 pm)
FYI on the EPA Numbers...
Hyundai, Kia to pay 900,000 owners for overstating mileage on window stickers
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/hyundai-kia-pay-900-000-owners-overstatin- g-mileage-125024437.html
Quote...
"While the Environmental Protection Agency sets the testing procedures that automakers must use to measure fuel economy, it relies on the companies to self-report accurate claims.
The EPA began investigating the mileage on Hyundai models after scores of complaints from customers that their cars weren't meeting the window sticker mileage estimates. In July, Hyundai was sued in California by consumer groups accusing the automaker of misleading customers by stating only the 40 mpg highway ratings in its ads."
Nov 02, 2012 (5:11 pm)
Still doing great! Took a road trip of 310 miles RT today mostly highway ( 90 %) at 55 mph!
When pulling in the driveway my dash showed 35.8 mpg.............
Booo Ya !!!
#61 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [fortherock]
by automelon48
Nov 02, 2012 (5:18 pm)
fortherock,
Just for comparison sake, try a tank of Premium fuel (91, no higher) that you can confirm is pure gasoline, with no Ethanol. I don't know how much difference you will see, if any, but it would be an interesting experiment for a few extra dollars. My Escape 2.0 FWD just rolled off the truck this morning. I take delivery next week and will be posting my MPG's as soon as I have meaningful data. I don't mean to "harp" on the Ethanol thing too much, but the EPA does state that their tests are based on 100% gasoline and that Ethanol content will reduce mileage. I don't make this up, I just get it from the EPA website.
#62 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [automelon48]
by fortherock
Nov 02, 2012 (5:32 pm)
automelon48,
I did actually use Premium fuel once and did notice an average around 25mpg highway, the only time the car went above 23mpg. I'll try again. I'll also double check if the Premium didn't have 10% ethanol.
Yet, my response is still the same. If the sticker on the window says 21/24/28, then the numbers should be close - especially for the city number. To be 20% less puts this car at the same mileage as the previous V6. The whole point of this new Ecoboost engine is better fuel economy. It's Fords main marketing point and why they no longer offer the V6. Yet, based on what I've read on this great forum, sounds like it varies from car to car - so there is hope something can be tuned to improve fuel economy. Love to hear what you get!!!
#64 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [fortherock]
by wwest
Nov 02, 2012 (7:17 pm)
Many years ago high compression engines needed/required premium fuel. But only when the effective compression ratio approached the base/native compression ratio. Nowadays the engine ECU simply enriches the mixture slightly if the effective compression is reached.
So, unless you are of the "boy-racer" mentality or simply a leadfoot, regular fuel will yeild just as good FE as premium and at lower pump cost.
#65 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [wwest]
by automelon48
Nov 02, 2012 (8:36 pm)
wwest
I agree with you, but in many places the only way to get pure gas, it to buy Premium (91). I suggest it ONLY if it ensures that it is Ethanol free. The EPA tests the vehicles on 100% gas, so the only fair comparison is for us to test with 100% gas. I live in Western Canada and some stations will sell Regular 87 without Ethanol and others only guarantee that their 91 is Ethanol free. Shell Canada says on their website that all of their Premium pumps are Ethanol free.
Hey, it's worth a try.
#66 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [automelon48]
by mole_mugger
Nov 03, 2012 (9:32 am)
I have a 2013 2.0 AWD Titanium with 3200 miles. I used 87 octane on my first two fill-ups and was getting poor gas mileage (21.3 mpg combined). I switched to premium (91 octane) and saw immediate improvement in gas mileage (26.3 mpg). For my last 3 tankfuls I used 87 octane. My combined mileage with 87 octane is 22.4 mpg. Don't know the ethanol content of either. Regardless of the economics, environmentally it is worth the added cost and I will go back to premium fuel when available.
#67 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [automelon48]
by neile457
Nov 03, 2012 (12:53 pm)
all 91 octane doesn't have No ethanol, you have to make sure that it doesn't. in most areas, you can find no octane in any grades, though it's getting harder to find. No ethanol gas does improve your gas mileage, and it usually is 15% higher in price. I had been putting no ethanol in my 300C, but it's getting so hard to find, I no longer do. But my gas mileage averaged 23 mpg compared to 20 with ethanol.
#68 of 565 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [fortherock]
by woodinva
Nov 04, 2012 (6:55 pm)
Hate to inform you but the EPA does its Mileage tests with 100% Gasoline
They do NOT, repeat Do NOT use Ethanol in their testing for mileage!!!
Premium Gasoline Does contain up to 10% ethanol as well.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/info.shtml
Check for yourself about 3/4 down the page.