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#340 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [stevedebi]
by tinycadon
Mar 06, 2013 (6:08 pm)
Ok, first of all, you never said you had the HYBRID Escape, yes, it has a 15gal tank, you might want throw that out so you're not comparing apples & oranges. Secondly, it may say "17.5g" in the manual, but it's wrong, it's 16.5g, it said it on the Ford website, it says it HERE ON EDMUNDS research for the 2010 Escape AND according to Ford customer service, which I called, they confirmed it was a 16.5g tank. Anything else???
#341 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [tinycadon]
by stevedebi
Mar 06, 2013 (6:14 pm)
"Ok, first of all, you never said you had the HYBRID Escape, yes, it has a 15gal tank, you might want throw that out so you're not comparing apples & oranges. Secondly, it may say "17.5g" in the manual, but it's wrong, it's 16.5g, it said it on the Ford website, it says it HERE ON EDMUNDS research for the 2010 Escape AND according to Ford customer service, which I called, they confirmed it was a 16.5g tank. Anything else??? "
Yup, forgot to mention it was FEH. I did not realize the ICE and FEH were different fuel tank sizes, although it makes sense. Maybe they used the extra space for the traction battery?
However, the 2010 Ford Owners manual, available on the web from the Ford maintenance site, still says 17.5. I accessed it from their site, and that is what I quoted. I don't question your personal knowledge on the issue.
In any case, they should have stayed with the larger size.
#342 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [stevedebi]
by tinycadon
Mar 07, 2013 (6:16 am)
I absolutely agree they should've stayed with a larger tank, but it seems most car companies are shrinking their tanks for whatever reason, save weight I guess???
#343 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [tinycadon]
by izedaman
Mar 07, 2013 (7:56 am)
they drop 2 gallons, that saves 16 lb's big deal... Id rather be able to go 40-50 more miles
but the drivers are getting fatter if there counting down to the precise pound of the car..
MPG if your 300lb = 17 city, 23 HW
MPG if your 120lb = 23 city, 26 HW
and EPA MPG there is no driver so thats why the numbers are higher.. I get it now
#344 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [izedaman]
by steve_ HOST
Mar 07, 2013 (8:44 am)
The EPA test does require a driver; have to wonder if only skinny ones are hired. More likely there's a standard and weights are added to bring the total vehicle weight up to par.
When you're trying to meet CAFE regs across your entire fleet, every ounce counts.
#345 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [izedaman]
by automelon48
Mar 07, 2013 (9:31 am)
I would like to know where those numbers came from, for the drivers weight affecting mileage that much.
If anything, I can see this amount of weight difference having a small effect in the city and a negligible effect on the highway.
#346 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [automelon48]
by steve_ HOST
Mar 07, 2013 (10:58 am)
All the little things add up over time (I tossed a row of seats from my minivan when it was new for example; didn't need it and that weight savings helped offset the additional weight of the full sized spare I got).
Here's yet another factor:
"Most gasoline in the U.S. today is 8-10 percent ethanol, but the EPA does its tests with 100 percent gasoline in the tank."
Here's Why Real-World MPG Doesn't Match EPA Ratings
This Car and Driver story is a good overview of the testing required by the EPA.
#347 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [tinycadon]
by pdawg1
Mar 07, 2013 (11:05 am)
I just filled our tank with 11.0 gallons. We had less than 40 miles to empty and the actual mileage on that tank was 22.8. With a 15 gallon tank that would have meant we had 4 gallons left and miles to empty should have been around 91. So, there is an issue with tank size or the computer or both. The low fuel light came on so I believe we had maybe 2 gallons left or a 13 gallon tank.
I work at a Ford dealership and will be talking to my service manager and possibly the service rep on this issue...........
#348 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [pdawg1]
by automelon48
Mar 07, 2013 (11:13 am)
Have a look at post #262.
Your distance to empty is based on previous 500 miles, not just your current tank. This may help explain the difference.
#349 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [pdawg1]
by pdawg1
Mar 07, 2013 (11:30 am)
Sorry, calculations are not correct. If my Escape had 2 gallons in the tank and we put in 11, that would be a 13 gallon tank, which is what a lot of people are saying.............but it is still not 15!