Last post on May 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM
You are in the Ford Escape
What is this discussion about?
Ford Escape, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Please note the engine, AWD/FWD, type of gas you buy, and something about the type of driver you are and your driving conditions (city/highway, commuting) when you post about your mileage.
#306 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [tinycadon]
Mar 02, 2013 (8:28 am)
First time poster here. Bought my 2013 Titanium Escape 2.0 4WD in late October and have 3,300 miles on it so far. I drive about 60/40 on the highway and haven't seen MPG anywhere close to what was on the sticker. I only use premium fuel and am a very conservative driver. My best tank average is 20.1 MPG. I probably would have made a different decision had a known I would be getting such poor gas mileage. Plus, how big is the tank anyway? I don't think I've ever put more than 11.5 gallons in when I am on E. Ford screwed up big time on both these items and hope they are investigated for deception. With that said, I do love the new Escape.
#307 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [sbro1]
Mar 02, 2013 (8:55 am)
Agree with your question about the tank, and asked it myself months ago. I have the SEL 2.0 4WD. The most fuel it has ever taken was 11.3 gallons. Tripometer said I had 32 miles to empty. I average 22.1 mpg (70/30 hwy/city). I have strong doubts there is a 15 gallon tank on this thing. Last years model had a 13 gallon tank - almost certain they carried it onto this model as well. Still waiting to hear from anyone on this forum that ever put more than 13 gallons in at fill-up. I do like the vehicle. I am ticked off about the mpg (I ought to be averaging at least 26 mpg per the specs and my driving habits). But mostly just wish they had engineered a way to stick a 20 gallon tank on this thing and not a 13.1 (which I'm sure us what's actually there)!
#308 of 565 Re: Not a fuel sipper but good MPG for weight & towing ability [steve_]
Mar 02, 2013 (10:06 am)
No. The owners manual specifies regular.
#309 of 565 Gas mileage
Mar 02, 2013 (1:23 pm)
I ordered a Titanium AWD in the first week of December. Got my window sticker a few days ago and it's scheduled to be built March 5th. I've been watching these gas mileage posts and it looks like Ford made a mistake in putting in a gas tank that's too small. They did the same thing with the F150 when they introduced the 3.5 ecoboost and it took them a year or so to rectify that. You may see a bigger tank in a year or so but it won't do the rest of us any good.
#310 of 565 Re: Gas mileage [donl1]
Mar 02, 2013 (2:51 pm)
I have a 2.0L SE FWD with 1500 miles on it and my wife has a 1.6L SE FWD with about 6500 miles on it. We don't see any appreciable difference in mileage between the 2 cars and generally average 25.5 to 26 MPG, with about a 60/40 hwy/city split.
#312 of 565 Re: Not a fuel sipper but good MPG for weight & towing ability [steve_]
Mar 02, 2013 (3:02 pm)
The manual says for the turbo engines regular is recommended, but you can get more power using a higher octane.
#313 of 565 Re: Not a fuel sipper but good MPG for weight & towing ability [explorerx4]
by steve_ HOST
Mar 02, 2013 (3:05 pm)
Now the question is whether you'll take a mpg hit with this engine going for the more power option. They seem to be competing goals.
#314 of 565 Re: Not a fuel sipper but good MPG for weight & towing ability [steve_]
Mar 02, 2013 (4:36 pm)
Steve, I am trying to do some tests on various fuels in my Escape (2.0 FWD) to see if I can track any difference. So far I don't really see any, but I want to run lot's more tanks through, before I draw any conclusions.
Generally speaking, a Normally Aspirated engine that is designed to run on regular, will not see any benefit to running Premium. Agreed.
These Escapes with the turbo MAY be a bit different. In my opinion, these engines should really run Premium, as they push 18 lbs of boost through the turbo. That being said, modern engine control systems (like the one on the Escape) are very good at utilizing any fuel you feed them. They don't knock or complain at all.
When the specs say that the Escape will make more Hp on Premium, that tells me that it is able to adjust and utilize all of the octane in the fuel. (unlike a lower compression NA engine like the ones generally referred to in the article) That being the case, it should be running at designed efficiency also, while utilizing all of the octane.
I also have a Normally Aspirated car in the driveway and it is designed for Regular. I never run Premium in it, as I know there would be no mileage or HP gains. (and perhaps even mileage and HP loss)
The one big factor here is that some gas stations advertise somewhere between 0% and 10 % Ethanol in their Regular fuel. (depending on region, season, local laws, availability etc etc)
Many gas stations (depending on region) advertise that their Premium fuel does not contain Ethanol. This can be a mileage benefit.
It's a real crap-shoot trying to figure out what you are ACTUALLY getting at some stations.
I have been cycling through 5 tanks Premium, 5 tanks Regular and 5 tanks with UP TO 10% Ethanol. If I ever get conclusive results I will share them. It's quite difficult when there are weather changes etc, to have consistant testing.
By the way, when the turbo is pushing at full boost, it raises the effective compression of the 2.0 motor from 9.3:1 all the way up to 20.7:1 (calculated for sea level)
No doubt a little extra octane could be used !!!
#315 of 565 Re: Not a fuel sipper but good MPG for weight & towing ability [automelon48]
by steve_ HOST
Mar 02, 2013 (5:30 pm)
That's great; I really don't drive enough consistently anymore to try that. A tank these days will last me a month or more unless we do a road trip.
Guess it's time to mention pure-gas.org again for those wanting to try ethanol free gas. It's around here, but like your area, it's only available in the premium flavor.