Last post on May 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM
You are in the Ford Escape
What is this discussion about?
Ford Escape, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Please note the engine, AWD/FWD, type of gas you buy, and something about the type of driver you are and your driving conditions (city/highway, commuting) when you post about your mileage.
#292 of 565 Re: Rubbish [tim156]
Feb 28, 2013 (7:52 am)
hmm, have you read my posts? Very detailed...
I'm sure there are some idiots that gun it all the time and complain...
But the way I drive in the city, I don't think can be beat. Ultra-slow acceleration, maximize coasting between red lights (foot off pedal as MUCH as possible without driving everyone around me absolutely crazy).
Stop and go traffic just kills this thing. Doesn't matter how hard you try. Sure if you can coast on green lights with no traffic you'll get OK mpg.
If I'm forced to drive that way (super-maximize mileage) then I don't even need the freaking turbo! I could drive the way I drive with a 120hp engine... There should be an ECO button which reduces the turbo involvement or something. People reviewing the paltry SkyActive engine of the Mazda CX5 were saying the engine didn't have enough guts, but I'm sure it'd be PLENTY for the driving style imposed on Escape owners.
I cannot get anything over 375 km (235 miles) out of a city tank in normal Toronto, Ontario conditions. Can't imagine what it'd be like if I was driving "normally", not like a Prius owner trying to get to 600 miles on a tank.....
Also it annoys me that you'd have to drive at 55-60 mph to get decent hwy mileage. That's just not reality, not one bit. Optimizing fuel ratings for that speed (so that the marketing department can have a field day with stupid claims) is just playing the system and pissing people off. If someone drives 55mph on a 60mph highway, then he's selfish, a danger to others, and probably causes all kinds of episodes of road rage around. In 2013, a car should provide decent mileage at an average speed of 70mph.
I love the car otherwise, but let me say that once this lease is over, I will not be looking at any EcoBoost model from Ford.
#293 of 565 Re: Rubbish [tim156]
Feb 28, 2013 (7:55 am)
I can't report on time driven and average speed, because the trip computer, for some reason, keeps counting time even when the car is in accessory mode (engine not running). So I regularly stay in the car 10-25 minutes after I arrived at my destination to keep listening to my audiobook, and that messes up the time spent, so I don't have an accurate average speed.
#294 of 565 Re: Rubbish [tim156]
Feb 28, 2013 (8:01 am)
Again, people who are getting the mileage like you're getting are the EXCEPTION not the rule! I can't explain why you're getting better mileage than most on here just like YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN why people aren't getting just as good. But what I can tell you, which completely gets drowned out in the "it must be this or it has to be that" is that I got MUCH BETTER gas mileage in my 2010 Escape than I did in this 2013 Escape, end of story. I had both, drove both the same way, and the new & improved Escape didn't come close. And I'm not sure where this "all these other drivers are getting good mileage" is coming from because I still read this thread to see what "all these other drivers" are getting and I'm sure as Hades not seeing what you're seeing??? I see A LOT of people posting truly horrible numbers and I'm willing to bet they're not all driving the same route, the same time, the same weather, the same traffic conditions as you are. Like I've said in the past, I've owned MULTIPLE Ford's and this one has by far been the worst experience, so I'm not a Ford basher or whining complaining troll on here.
#295 of 565 Re: Rubbish [dizney]
Feb 28, 2013 (8:11 am)
Our Escape is the 2.0L 4WD, is yours 4WD?
#296 of 565 Re: Rubbish [h3ll3r]
Feb 28, 2013 (8:21 am)
I just got back from working in Arizona and was provided with a 2010 Ford Flex, we called it the "Toaster". This was in Prescott, very high altitude over 5000 ft and very hilly. The Flex with a 3.5 V6 EcoBoost got better than 21 in town and close to 25 on the highway, much better than our new Escape! So I think there is an issue with these vehicles............
#297 of 565 Re: Road Trip [johnnyuma]
Feb 28, 2013 (9:28 am)
We completed our first road trip. Over a two week period drove 2600 miles from MI to FL panhandle and return. 27 MPG combined city/highway.
#298 of 565 Vehicle mileage?
Feb 28, 2013 (11:05 am)
For those who are getting the supposed bad MPG:
How many miles on your vehicle? If it's less than 5000, come back when you have completed the break-in period.
And how are you calculating MPG? Looking at your trip computer? BS. Fill your tank and reset your trip odometer. Drive until you need gas. Fill your tank again. Divide miles traveled by the fuel used, and THAT is your MPG.
For anyone with bad highway MPG... SUVs are more sensitive to faster highway speeds than regular cars, because of aerodynamics. You probably don't have to slow down a lot... just a little will make a difference with these beasts.
My commute is 20 miles one-way... 17 of it is on the interstate. Those 3 miles off the interstate are enough to put me closer to the combined number on my car. Don't expect to hit the highway number unless it's almost ALL highway.
#299 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [ronsteve]
Feb 28, 2013 (11:35 am)
Another lecture on how we don't know how to drive, add, subtract & divide.
1) Break in periods today are complete BS. That may have been the case 20/30/40 years ago but todays cars are so computerized they can make adjustments on the fly. Every new car I've had in the past 10yrs came within 1-2mpg of their numbers right off the bat. The only thing the so called "break in period" does is break in your tires, or wear them out, which leads to better gas mileage. Ever see a NASCAR tire, smooth as a baby's a$$.
2) Everyone knows how to correctly calculate mpgs on this thread, if you read through it you will see a lot of people who do it both ways, and the computer mpgs are always HIGHER than the hand calculated numbers!
3) As far as Highway MPGs go, I could drive 70-75mph with a full load in my 2010 Escape (which is as aerodynamic as a box on wheels) and get 27mpg on a 400mi trip. That's 1mpg lower than the EPA est. of 28hwy!
The 2013 Escape suckered me, plain an simple, it drove fantastic, but it wasn't anywhere near the fuel miser it claimed to be and with the MFT acting possessed 1/2 the time & 3 recalls for fire related issues with the engine I had enough & gave up. If it's working out just fine for you, congrats, you're a lucky one, but just because you're one of the lucky ones doesn't mean the rest of us with problems/issues with it are whinny, complaining little trolls.
#300 of 565 Re: Vehicle mileage? [ronsteve]
Feb 28, 2013 (1:04 pm)
Well stated. I've had my Titanium AWD 5 months and have 6300 miles on it (overall 25 MPG).
#301 of 565 Re: Rubbish [pdawg1]
Feb 28, 2013 (3:35 pm)
"I just got back from working in Arizona and was provided with a 2010 Ford Flex, we called it the "Toaster". This was in Prescott, very high altitude over 5000 ft and very hilly. The Flex with a 3.5 V6 EcoBoost got better than 21 in town and close to 25 on the highway, much better than our new Escape! So I think there is an issue with these vehicles............ "
I've noticed with several vehicles that they do better at high altitudes.