Last post on Nov 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM
You are in the Ford Escape
What is this discussion about?
Ford Escape, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Please note the engine, AWD/FWD, type of gas you buy, and something about the type of driver you are and your driving conditions (city/highway, commuting) when you post about your mileage.
#191 of 626 Re: 1.6L Ecoboost FWD SEL [h3ll3r]
Jan 25, 2013 (4:38 am)
600km! That's amazing. I had to convert to US units, then mpg to do the comparison (for most of us US types). 8.4L / 100km = 2.2gal/62.1mi. Total trip distance of 610km comes to 379mi.
Doing the math, 62.1mi / 2.2gal = 28.2 mpg <-- the important part to compare, for us. Not unreasonable, but many here might claim otherwise. It's the 379 miles for that tank that sounds most interesting though, because that means you used 379 mi / 28.2 mpg = 13.4 gallons of gas for that tank, which tells me you probably ran it down at least far enough for the low fuel warning chime / indicator, and probably to the red fuel guage mark. Yet, you still had around 2 gallons left in the tank. Sure wish Ford would recalibrate the fuel guage on these. I can adjust (filling up with a lesser amount indicated on the guage), but it drives my paranoid wife nuts to see me waiting until it gets down close to 'empty'.
#192 of 626 Re: 1.6L Ecoboost FWD SEL [usa1fan]
Jan 25, 2013 (7:42 am)
LOL yep! I was happy with the highway range, for sure...
BTW no need for manual calculations, you can simply type this in google:
"8.4 L/100km to mpg"
So the trip was roughly 800km one-way... In fact I did 8.2 (28.7 mpg) on the way there, and 8.6 on the way back (27.3mpg). Might be some slight differences in speed, elevation, temperature to explain the difference...
It was done with cruise control set most of the time, at 112 km/h (69.5 mph) but I did do a little higher at times to pass and stuff.
So yeah, around 28mpg, it's not the best out here but it's not bad either, I was not trying to get the best number ever. And it's during winter in Canada, pretty cold weather (was around -15C out there). Definitely satisfied with that however, now if only the city numbers would be that close to the rated numbers!
Yep I often fill up when the fuel gauge is deeply in the red!! But I don't feel too bad about it, knowing that there's still a lot of gas left due to the huge reserve...
Also, what I typically do to estimate my "true" range, is take whatever value I drove (ex. 365km) and add to that the estimated range left that the computer provides (ex. 20 km to empty) so then I'd tell myself that my range was 385km with that tank. I know it'd probably eeke out an an extra 40-50km if I really wanted to push it and run dry but that wouldn't be too wise, especially in the eyes of the missus... lol...
In what I said above (600 km for the roadtrip), it was truly driven kms on the odometer, but with almost nothing left in the tank at the end (playing it a bit risky).
#193 of 626 Add another to the list...
Jan 25, 2013 (6:46 pm)
My in-laws have an Escape 1.6L SEL AWD they had as a factory order and took delivery Oct 1, 2012. It has gotten no better than 19.5mpg average and sometimes less. It has been in the shop for over 3 week total for other various issues. While the car is pretty to look at and has lots of features, it is obvious total quality control during manufacturing is not consistent. Ford better fix it fast because the press around these EcoBoost engines is souring really, really fast.
CR just bashed the Fusion and this Escape Fuel Economy thread is starting to look like the Elantra Fuel Economy thread.
#194 of 626 2013 Ford Escape 1.6L AWD Gas Mileage after recent Recall
Jan 26, 2013 (10:17 am)
Has anybody seen a drop in their mpg's after the most recent recall? Before the most recent recall on the 2013 Ford Escapes, I was seeing 26-28 mpg's. But afterwards I have been through 9 fuel ups and have been averaging 23-24 mpg's. I checked tire pressure, I use all synthetic oils and fluids, I use the same gas station (Shell), I put gas line anti freeze in to help aide in the colder temps in New England, I put fuel injector cleaner in one tank and am lost to how I could lose 3 mpg's. Ford is saying it is because of the cold temps but it does not make any sense cause it has been cold since November and I was still seeing 26-28 mpg's. I do believe the Ford computer fix also included running the engine richer to help aide in keeping the engine cool. Any thoughts would be well appreciated.
#195 of 626 Re: Gas Mileage [h3ll3r]
Jan 26, 2013 (1:43 pm)
h3113r if you read my post I was referring to gas used only not the reserve in the tank. I'm complaining that the 4 gallon reserve does not allow a person to gauge what additional miles they can travel. My MPG calculations were in fact based solely on gasoline used and miles traveled. My wife used 11 gallons and traveled 255 miles = 23 MPG. These numbers have nothing to do with the 4 gallon reserve in the tank.
#196 of 626 Re: 2013 Titanium 2.0 Gas Mileage Issue-HELP [lip1122]
Jan 26, 2013 (2:18 pm)
Prior to purchase of the Escape 2013 Titanium 2.0 engine, the spec sheet on the glass advertised the Escape as getting 21 mpg city and 28 mpg highway. Mileage started at 11.8 mpg. I discussed with the dealer's salesman. He advised me to wait until I got 1000 miles as it will improve. In reading the owners manual, I found this in writing. At 1100 miles, I drove to Los Angeles, a 3000 mile one way trip. I ws quite disappointed as the highest mileage I got was 23.7. On my return trip I put on an additional 3600 miles, making a total of about 7700 miles on the Escape and the mpg was still only 23.7 to 23.8 mpg. I do feel that this vehicle has ben miss represented to me. I still have the window display with the mpg sheet. If the mpg of this Escape is incorrect, I would like to have Ford correct it as the dealer has told me everything is working as it should. In the meantime, I have checked this mpg many times by topping off the tank and checking at the next tank full of fuel. In with the advertisement that Ford is putting out now, the Titanium Escape should be getting 24 mpg city and 33 mpg highway. I feel that this is fraud! Maybe the owners of this car should get a class action suite against the Ford Motor Company for correction.
#197 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape 1.6L AWD Gas Mileage after recent Recall [lax4545]
Jan 26, 2013 (2:54 pm)
My wife has the 2.0 with AWD and is averaging around 22 mpg.
She got it mid way through October, so I don't have any mileage measurements to fall back on.
I do have a couple of Explorers that I split my driving between.
Since November, they have each taken a 10% mileage hit.
I'm in CT.
#198 of 626 Re: 2013 Titanium 2.0 Gas Mileage Issue-HELP [judybill]
Jan 26, 2013 (4:21 pm)
They do that all the time. It's not Fords fault. This false advertising you are referring to has been around for years. They put the highest trim level on TV and tell you it gets great gas mieage but that mileage is only attained with a less powerful, lower trim level model. Those numbers are with the 1.6 engine, which isn't offered with the Titanium trim level.
#199 of 626 Re: 2013 Titanium 2.0 Gas Mileage Issue-HELP [escapeism]
Jan 26, 2013 (10:06 pm)
Agreed, those are 1.6 FWD numbers.
I really don't understand why AWD's are being pushed so much anyway. Here in Canada, any Titanium is 2.0 and AWD. Can't get one that is FWD. I wanted the 2.0 and most of the goodies but NOT the AWD, so I had to special order an SEL 2.0 FWD.
I run snow tires in the winter and have never needed AWD. It uses 7% (or more) additional fuel, it makes the vehicle weigh 150 lbs more and it is not needed by likely 90-99% of buyers. Just my $0.02
#200 of 626 Re: 2013 Titanium 2.0 Gas Mileage Issue-HELP [judybill]
Jan 27, 2013 (7:11 am)
What were your speeds during the Los Angeles trip? 70-80, most likely, when not creeping around in gridlocked or slow-n-go traffic, right? That seems to be the description most often used for people in the CA urban drive dominated car rags. If so, 23-24 is pretty good. 24 is the combined rating for the AWD 2.0l (don't know if yours is 2 or AWD), and I see 23-24 running at 70ish with less stop-n-go here in the east, with colder weather (not Canadian cold, h3ll3r ) with my AWD.
So far, personal experience combined with everything I've read everywhere says these Ecoboosts get better than rated highway numbers by a bit, but equally offset by worse than rated city numbers, all in the real world. The overall effect is that, in a true 50-50 mix, the numbers often end up in the range of the EPA rating, too.
In any case, so long as Ford adhered to the EPAs specified testing regimen, and obtained the numbers on the sticker from that, it's not false advertising, even if your real world results vary. I too get annoyed by the ads showing a top-trim vehicle while also listing the more 'eco' model's fuel economy ratings. All of the manufacturers do this, because they know:
1) We all want the nicest car we can buy (and the top trims are usually sexiest looking)
2) We are all rank fuel economy higher on our list than in the past
So, they show us the best of each in the ad, and leave it to us to find out that you can usually have one or the other, but not both.
If, on the other hand, Ford has fudged their actual test numbers (like Hyundai / Kia), I look forward to the yearly checks too! (even if my own experience says the Monroney is showing reasonable numbers, though not exactly *my* numbers).