Last post on Nov 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM
You are in the Ford Escape
What is this discussion about?
Ford Escape, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Please note the engine, AWD/FWD, type of gas you buy, and something about the type of driver you are and your driving conditions (city/highway, commuting) when you post about your mileage.
#118 of 626 Re: 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD: No Eco in my Ecoboost [woodinva]
Dec 18, 2012 (9:47 pm)
I have a 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 AWD in Southern California and after 4000 miles, I am still only getting 17/20/23 mpg average. There is an article regarding Consumer Reports questioning the mpg on the Ford C-Max. Ford says 47 mpg, Consumer Reports could only get 38 mpg. Ford is talking to the EPA regarding the numbers...but the article brings out a good point. Ford tests according to the EPA "Standards" which includes "Highway" Speeds at 48 mph. When increased to 65 to 75 mph, people lose as much as 20% fuel Economy ~38 mpg from a target of 47 mpg. I noticed in my owners manual for the 2013 Ford Escape it states you can improve your mpg 15% if you reduce your speed to 50 mph on the Freeway...combine that with the 5-10% reduction in fuel economy caused by 10% Ethanol, and you can explain my poor fuel economy. This leaves me with just one question - "Why would Ford tune an engine for 50 mph on the highway? That performs 15% less when driving the speed limit? Do they want to put my family in danger by driving too slow? I'm taking my car in next week. We will see what they say.
#119 of 626 Issue is small tank not mpg
Dec 19, 2012 (7:11 am)
Having traded in a vehicle that got about 16 mpg, on a good day, I'm okay with the mpg. It is the peanut sized tank I take issue with (more on that later).
I have the 2.0L 4WD, and just turned 1,200 miles. Based on my last two tanks I am getting combined mpg of 23.3 mpg. Most of my driving is city (guessing 75% city and 25% highway). based on the real time readout, I estimate that I get around 21 mpg city and 29 or 30 highway. I will also add the mpg indicator in the vehicle provided quite accurate (the readout for each tank full of gas was within 0.1 mpg of the calculated actual).
So, as I said, I don't take issue with the mpg. What I hate is the range! Refueling shortly atfter the low fuel indicator goes on, I'm getting only 250 miles on a tank! Has anyone confirmed that the tank on this vehicle is 15.1 gallons (run out of gas and refueled to full)? Here is why I ask. Besides calculating my mpg when I fill up, I also monitor via the tripmeter (reset at each fill up). On my last two fill ups (one resulted in 22.8 mpg and the other in 23.8 mpg) the "miles to empty" indicated that I had 46 and 47 miles respectively (matching the mpg reading). Here's the issue -- when I filled up, each time the vehicle took 11 gallons of gas, meaning that with a 15.1 gallon tank, I had 4.1 gallons remaining. Given the mpg, my range until empty should have read closer to 95 miles, and not 46 or 47. On each tank of gas, I traveled about 250 miles -- this was stated accurately on the tripmeter. So, I contacted Ford and asked them to 1) confirm that the tank is actually 15.1 gallons and not 13.1 gallons, and 2) verify whether or not the "miles to empty" calculation provides an intentional false reading, that includes a buffer of 2 extra gallons? After 3 days, Ford responded by saying "take the vehicle to your dealer!"
Anyone else monitor their mpg and system readouts as I have described above? what are your results? Are your "Miles to empty" reported accurately, or does it seem to under-estimate the actual range?
Dec 19, 2012 (8:26 am)
I agree, the tank is way to small, Ive tracked my purchases on fueleconomy.gov the most i have ever put in the tank is 12.38g and I usually fill up when the lights on and when I have 30-40 miles left on the empty gague.
#121 of 626 Re: Issue is small tank not mpg [wistrod]
Dec 19, 2012 (8:30 am)
Wistrod, I've taken mine down to the E on the gauge & filled up 13.3 gallons. there maybe another gallon or less in there after that, but what I do know is that I've been told that some of the tank's capacity can not be used and that running it down to the bone will cause your fuel pump to burn up without the gas to cool it down. It is what it is i guess?
#122 of 626 Re: small tank [izedaman]
Dec 19, 2012 (8:45 am)
Thanks for the feedback. That's exactly what I have been finding. There is no way the tank is 15.1 gallons, least not useable gallons. Per your data, if the tank is 15.1 gallons, and you put in about 12.4, you ought to have 2.7 gallons left. If you only have 30 to 40 miles in range, that would mean your mpg is between 11 and 15!
#123 of 626 Re: Issue is small tank not mpg [tinycadon]
Dec 19, 2012 (8:46 am)
Thanks for the response. I've read the same thing about running down to empty (potential problems that can occur). They Ford) ought to be made to specify the "useable" fuel tank size and not the total capacity. Seems to me there is only a little more than 13 gallons of useable fuel on board, providing a total range (based on my mileage) of about 280 miles. More realistically, since I will usually fill up when the low fuel level light goes on, my true range is about 245 miles. That pretty much sucks! Why the engineers didn't come up with a way to mount a 19 or 20 gallon tank is beyond me!
#124 of 626 Re: Issue is small tank not mpg [wistrod]
Dec 19, 2012 (12:35 pm)
I have the 1.6L FWD & only get between 235-260mi of mixed driving, but I have been able to get 408mi / 31mpg on an all highway trip doing 65-75
#125 of 626 Re: Issue is small tank not mpg [tinycadon]
Dec 19, 2012 (4:01 pm)
So are you going to take the 'hush money'?
My wife's 2.0 AWD is averaging 250-275 between fills 22 mpg.
She is going to try premium gas at some point to see if it makes a difference.
She was filling up between 275-300 in the 09 Escape V6 AWD.
Fuel mileage was a little lower.
#126 of 626 Re: Issue is small tank not mpg [explorerx4]
Dec 19, 2012 (5:32 pm)
No, I'll either trade out to another manufacturer & take the hit now, or wait until spring or summer after I paid it down a little more. I should've listened to the folks who said don't buy a car in its 1st year, live and learn!
#127 of 626 Re: Issue is small tank not mpg [tinycadon]
Dec 19, 2012 (6:22 pm)
Let me ask you this, did you experience the overheating problem with your Escape? Recalls can involve a large number of vehicles, but usually affect only a few.
I have bought quite a few bleeding edge Fords over the years. Some have had real problems, most not.