Last post on Nov 04, 2013 at 6:30 PM
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#37 of 46 Re: 2008 Saturn Vue AWD V6- ABS System and other problems [ehickman]
Sep 29, 2013 (11:27 am)
We're sorry that you're not having a good experience with your Vue and that you're having an ongoing, unresolved concern with the ABS system. It's understandable that diagnostic fees can add to the frustration.
When you had your uncle do work on your Vue, did that resolve your concerns or are you still having trouble?
Sarah (Assisting Amber)
GM Customer Care
#38 of 46 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason
Oct 10, 2013 (4:45 pm)
My daughter has this vehicle. We bought it in May 2013 and put several thousand dollars in to so that she could take it to college: new timing belt, water pump, brakes, etc. It is a beauty!
So, she starts driving it to get used to it for the long drive to school. She tells my hubby that the brakes come on by themselves and she has to "floor" it to move. We of course poo-poo her and say it's because she isn't used to driving AWD - and the dealer checked it out for safety when doing all the work mentioned above!
Well, I had to drive it for a few days while my car was being worked on. She was NOT exaggerating at all! The brakes locked up for no reason whatsoever!! I had to stop there on the road as they were actually smoking!
My husband worked on this; replacing every damned brake part - even the master cylinder! I drove with her to college (Riverhead NY to Buffalo NY) and we had no problems. Last week she called. It is happening again!! This time it took over 2 hours for them to release. She missed classes of course but worse I can't allow her to drive this unsafe vehicle home for Thanksgiving.
We're at wit's end with this vehicle! I chose the damned thing and I am SO sorry! Between the $6K we paid plus all the new parts and labor, we're nearing $10K for 9 year old vehicle!!
Suggestions are welcome!!!
#39 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [rflannery]
Oct 13, 2013 (8:40 pm)
I am having the same problem with my Saturn Vue 2008. We just took it in to the dealership and spent $3200 every last cent we had to get it fixed. I told the service writer that there was a break issue and that the car would almost stall and not accelerate but it seemed related to the breaks. Well they fixed every thing but the problem. I am out of money and taking it back tomorrow, within 20 mins. of picking it up on friday night the problem happened again. I am besides myself because I am out of money. We only took it to the dealership because we thought it might be something complicated and figured they would be on top of this issue. Any suggestions are welcome. I have cried all weekend because I feel like they are going to try to it is not their problem.
#40 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [brownzoo]
Oct 14, 2013 (4:54 am)
I'm sorry to hear that you are being raped by the dealer...that's the reason I haven't taken mine there yet. The posts on this and other sites strongly suggest that the dealers have no clue how to resolve the problem...but at least they will tell you, the customer, what their computers tell them with utmost confidence. The only guy who can solve this problem is the father of the stabilitrack system, but that would require GM admitting the problem...
Now, I figured the only way to solve this problem is to narrow it down myself and thought I'd done so until a couple weeks ago...I'm still in the analysis stage. A BIG step in the right direction is to pull the fuse so that the stabilitrack system is disabled. The fuse you are looking for is in the fuse box under the hood, it's a 40 amp square fuse and is labeled ABS (there are 2 ABS fuses, it's the big one). When pulled, a warning light will flash on the panel that the stablilitrack system requires servicing...that's because you just disabled it. Don't be alarmed, the brakes continue to function just like conventional brakes, without the computer-assisted braking. I said earlier that I thought I'd found the problem...not so quick. Happened again even with the fuse pulled(which is starting to make me thing that there is something going on with the mastercylinder/vacuum assist, which as far as I can discern, is the ONLY place that pressure can be introduced into the system unintentionally) . I did discover that pressing the brake pedal to the floor will disengage the brakes...for some strange reason.
I started my analysis with a laser thermometer that could tell me which wheel/wheels were involved with the unintended braking. Couldn't make any sense out of the data...all four were involved, but 2 diagonally were much MORE involved. I've yet to make a similar observation because the latest episode happened while my wife was driving the car. Fortunately, I'd told her about pressing the brake pedal to release...more to follow as I discover....
#41 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [brooks_t]
Oct 14, 2013 (2:53 pm)
We did pull the fuse as you mentioned, too. And, like yours, it did not cure the problem. We will be sending her to Monro Brakes with instructions to check the brake proportioning valve (we talked to a Saturn "expert").
Will let you all know how it goes!
#42 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [rflannery]
Oct 19, 2013 (7:50 am)
Well...it did not go well at all!!! Monro says that there is no proportioning valve on ABS - they say it is contaminated brake fluid and want $4500.00 for a new system!!!!
#43 of 46 2007 Saturn Vue Front disk brakes locking up
Oct 23, 2013 (4:38 am)
I have a 07 Saturn Vue I just replaced the front rotors along with ceramic pads and a new caliper on the drivers side. I bled the brakes as I always do during a brake change and believed I was good to go. I drive for about 2 miles and the front brakes lock up to the point of melting the rims off the car. I wait for them to cool and the brakes seem to release enough to get it back home. I was going to replace the master cylinder but I don't think that's the issue since I can see the calipers moving while I'm bleeding them. And, no, the calipers are not seized.
Anybody have any ideas before I loose my mind?
#44 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [brooks_t]
Nov 01, 2013 (5:41 pm)
I have had a 2003 saturn vue that came in my shop for the same reason. The dealer aalready replaced the calipers on it and it was good for a little while. The solution I found was the rubber brake lines had colasped on the inside and the fluid could not return keeps the brakes on till it finally drained back.
#45 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [daverober]
Nov 02, 2013 (1:52 pm)
First, I have NO idea how the title got posted as '04, I actually have an '09 Saturn VUE...and, years ago, I had a similar thing happen to a '78 Chevy dump truck...inside liner of one of the hoses failed and turned itself into a check valve. That was fairly easy to isolate but not so with these electronic brakes. I pulled BOTH ABS fuses in an effort to eliminate something from the possibilities and I think I have...just not sure what. I can still get the brakes to start this braking without ever touching the brake pedal...simply apply brakes gently, same way you would with conventional brakes, and after a few miles...they apply all by themselves. I'm beginning to suspect the master cylinder since that appears to be the only place that pressure can be applied to the system...short of what you've encountered with the hoses...but I just wouldn't think they'd fail only 4 years old. But, having said that, it does fit all the symptoms. I bought a laser thermometer to try to figure which wheels were active...found out all 4 were but predominantly passenger front and driver rear...with the electronics unplugged its the front way more than the rear with the passenger side more than the driver side. My next step may just be the hose on the passenger side front....more to follow...
#46 of 46 Re: 2004 Saturn Vue brakes lock up for no reason [daverober]
Nov 04, 2013 (6:30 pm)
This is EXACTLY what my hubby did. He flew up to Buffalo and drove the Vue home. Ordered new brake lines and after he removed the old ones he tried to blow air through them. He couldn't. He kept cutting the lines to find the blockage. Near the middle some sort of clamp that holds the lines to the vehicle started to rust and the build up of rust was closing the line!
I'm driving this until she comes home for Christmas to be certain that it is finally fixed!
I'll keep you all informed ... it's been a trip literally and figuratively!