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Your Thoughts Regarding The New 54.5 MPG Mandate

158 messages,  Last post on Nov 05, 2012 at 2:02 PM

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#112 of 158 Re: Lukoil gouging gas station owners? [steve_] by hpmctorque

Sep 18, 2012 (7:55 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Sep 18, 2012 7:42 pm)
Hey, 26 mpg is pretty good for an old van. Considering that it's ~85% depreciated it's cheap transportation for something so roomy.

#113 of 158 Re: Lukoil gouging gas station owners? [fezo] by robr2

Sep 19, 2012 (8:54 am)

Replying to: fezo (Sep 18, 2012 10:59 am)
Ah! Could be. This one has shrunk its automotive section to put in more groceries. There's a Super Wal Mart 15 miles up the road but I dread going to it.
 
I dread all Wal Marts. They are my last resort.

#114 of 158 Re: Lukoil gouging gas station owners? [robr2] by xwesx

Sep 19, 2012 (10:10 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Sep 19, 2012 8:54 am)
I second that!

#115 of 158 article on how CAFE favors trucks and SUVs by benjaminh

Oct 02, 2012 (5:19 am)

Good article about the complications of CAFE. Remember how there used to be one standard for cars and another for "trucks" including SUVs? Well, the new standards make that difference even more extreme, according to this good article:
 
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/10/how-cafe-killed-compact-trucks-and-stat- ion-wagons/

#116 of 158 Re: article on how CAFE favors trucks and SUVs [benjaminh] by ateixeira

Oct 02, 2012 (9:36 am)

Replying to: benjaminh (Oct 02, 2012 5:19 am)
That could effectively kill subcompacts and compacts.
 
They actually end up being penalized for being efficient now. Plus it's harder to make improvements when they are already pretty efficient.
 
We'll end up with long wheelbase everything and no small cars at all.

#117 of 158 maybe the CAFE hammer helped? by steve_ HOST

Oct 10, 2012 (11:02 am)

"A move toward more fuel-efficient vehicles has helped American car manufacturers navigate the latest surge in fuel prices with relative strength.
 
“all of Detroit’s continuing models became more fuel efficient, and Detroit’s market share continued to be higher” than in the 2008 period, even as Japanese car makers became more competitive."
 
U.S. Car Makers Navigating Gas-Price Surges Better (WSJ)

#118 of 158 Put down that Twinkie! by ateixeira

Oct 11, 2012 (7:41 am)

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/10/10/challenges-ahead-to-reach-54-5-mpg-as-ameri- cans-get-heavier/
 
LOL, obesity means 54.5 mpg may end up being high 30s for most drivers.

#119 of 158 Re: Put down that Twinkie! [ateixeira] by andre1969

Oct 11, 2012 (8:10 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 11, 2012 7:41 am)
LOL, obesity means 54.5 mpg may end up being high 30s for most drivers.
 
Eh, just doing the conversion from the raw CAFE numbers to what gets dumbed down and put on the window sticker probably translates to high 30's right there.

#120 of 158 Re: Put down that Twinkie! [andre1969] by ateixeira

Oct 11, 2012 (8:24 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 11, 2012 8:10 am)
Yet they stubbornly refuse to correct the system since they'd have to advertise lower numbers.

#121 of 158 Re: Put down that Twinkie! [ateixeira] by xwesx

Oct 11, 2012 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 11, 2012 7:41 am)
The funny thing is that the CAFE requirements don't take obesity into the equation, so why is this being mentioned at all? From a personal fuel economy perspective, it might be a factor. They way they presented it, though, is a non sequitur.
 
I suppose if some obese guy was upset that his new car wasn't returning the mileage he expected, he could make an issue of it.

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