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#5 of 54 Drove and leased a C-Max Energi
Nov 24, 2012 (7:38 am)
My wife and I wanted to purchase a 2013 Nissan Leaf but they are not out yet so after looking at several vehicles we chose a 2013 Ford C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid with the 303 A Package.
I wanted to do the lease because I know next year they will have a bigger / better one that we may decide purchase or we can look at the trading it in on the Focus electric.
We traded in a Nissan Altima and with a down payment we got the monthly payment down below $350.
The dealer was knowledgeable about the vehicle and did a good job with our trade-in / deal.
Great Ride, extremely quite and solid, quick to charge at home about 5 hrs on wall power (110v) or about 2.5 on level 2 (240v) from empty to full (20 mile all electric with a full charge).
After a week of driving we are getting 75 mpg as an average, we were getting 999.9 but had to take in two trips and use the ICE (you cannot hear or feel it kick on) the only way we knew it was on was by the left gauge / panel showing that it was on.
We have used a public level 2 charger at a local Walgreens and in 40 min got a 25% boost to the battery.
No complaints yet but a couple of things that I would have done differently:
1. No coasting re-gen to the battery it does have a braking re-gen but must be in gear for it to work.
2. The shift lever for the automatic transmission will not go from drive to neutral without first pressing the unlock button on the shift lever (no coasting re-gen so I just put it in neutral going down hills to hyper-mile) this is probably a "safety feature".
3. The navigation screen is just too busy for us so we leave it off and I wonder why they used Mapquest instead of Google maps. Anyway we have a TomTom that works well.
4. The MyFord Mobile app does not work, I will be calling Ford Support to see what needs to be done.
We were every close to getting the 2012 Prius but the kicker was the Toyota could not be sold without the $400 carpeted floor mats no alloy wheels and leather seats would need to be locally installed (not factory) but leather seats alloy wheels and floor mats were standard on the Ford.
#6 of 54 $3750 Tax Credit
Nov 28, 2012 (7:14 am)
Does anyone know anything about the 2012 tax credit on this car? My tax perparer said Obama may eliminate it and that nothing is certain at this point. If there isn't the $3750 federal dollars, this vehicle may have a difficult time selling.
Ford says this car should go over 30 miles on the batery, so why did the last post say they only get 20 miles on a full charge? Is this the case of 'Actual Mileage May Vary'?
Nov 30, 2012 (12:54 pm)
A reporter is looking for people who have shopped or bought either a Prius V or a Ford C-Max hybrid as an "alternative family car." If you'd like to share your experience, please send and e-mail to predmunds.com by December 10, 2012.
#8 of 54 Re: $3750 Tax Credit [rrollntdi]
Dec 01, 2012 (10:16 am)
The tax credit was passed during the Bush presidency and it is phased out only after vehicles are sold by Ford. I don't believe your tax preparer had good information. Here's my blog on the topic: http://cmaxchat.com/?p=458
#9 of 54 Apps for C-Max and Charger Locations for C-Max Energi
Dec 01, 2012 (10:21 am)
My most recent blogs are on smartphone Apps for C-Max owners: http://cmaxchat.com/?p=623 and finding charger locations for C-Max Energi owners: http://cmaxchat.com/?p=663 Some of you may find my blog on the C-Max helpful. I ordered a C-Max in August, it won't be delivered until Jan 2013, and I'm blogging about the C-Max.
#10 of 54 Re: $3750 Tax Credit [cshelley]
Dec 04, 2012 (7:40 am)
cshelley. Thank you for the information. I noticed that the tax form is for 2011 so I assume the 2012 forms aren't ready yet. Hopefully Obama won't kill the tax credit as part of the Fiscal Cliff measures. If he doesn't, the C-Max Energi should qualify for the tax credit if purchased in 2013. Since Ford will only have begun making them late this year, it would be unlikely they reached the sales limit next year. I have one on order, but it's not likely to be built til January.
#11 of 54 Re: $3750 Tax Credit [rrollntdi]
Dec 04, 2012 (11:12 am)
I checked the IRS web site. They haven't listed the 2012 form yet. I don't believe the tax credit is affected by the part of the tax credit that is the "fiscal cliff". Ford must sell 200,000 C-Max Energi, Fusion Energi, Focus Electric or Ford vehicles not yet announced before the tax credit is phased out for Ford models. I don't believe it is possible for Ford to sell this many in 2013. I'm quite certain the credit is safe, but new legislation could be passed to remove it. I doubt this will happen.
#12 of 54 Re: $3750 Tax Credit [cshelley]
Dec 04, 2012 (11:59 am)
cshelley. Thank you for your help in researching the credit. 200,000 is a large number of electric cars for Ford to sell, so the credit should be safe for a couple of years, barring new legislation.
#13 of 54 Re: Apps for C-Max and Charger Locations for C-Max Energi [cshelley]
Jan 07, 2013 (9:29 am)
I ordered a C-Max Energi in December. My salesman said it was built last week, so it should be in any time now. I'm in the process of selling my Jetta TDI, hopefully it will be gone tomorrow. There aren't a lot of charging stations in this area yet, so I figure that I'll have to use gas for over half my commute. I'm still skeptical about the MPGe claims, but I'm jumping in. I'm investigating a DTE Energy provided Level2 charger for the house. The savings sound great and DTE pays up to $2500 to have it installed (if your one of the first 2500).
#14 of 54 Re: Apps for C-Max and Charger Locations for C-Max Energi [rrollntdi]
Jan 07, 2013 (11:47 am)
We get about 20 mi all electric. The gauge has been as high as 23 and as low as 16 after a full charge.
My Wife only drives 15mi a day during the week so it does not bother us what the gauge says.
I purchased a GE charger at HomeDepot for 800.00 and had it installed for less than $200 but we hardly ever use it. We only do if we plan to go out after we get home, we will plug it in for a quick 1 or 2 hr boost and then we go out.
The 120v adapter that comes with the Energi works fine over night it gets a full charge in about 4hrs since we rarely get it out of electric mode or "EV mode" (except on the weekends).
In Auto EV mode after the Hybrid battery is empty it will work just like a normal Hybrid: ICE off at stop lights, regenerative braking will keep the battery charged enough that it will usually get to 35 mph or so before the ICE kicks back on. It is hard to know when the ICE kicks on so we keep it on the "Engage" display so you can see when it is running (the ICE shows as a white graph, battery as green).
I have calculated a little over 40mpg with just the ICE. Combined we get about 90 to 100 until the weekends when we get it down to 70 to 80.
I have used a charging station at Walgreen's (most all have one).
If you can plug it in to 120v at work that might be an option.
Our Electric bill has gone up $10 a month.
We finally used the 1st tank of gas after 30 days of ownership and over 1000 miles.
I still cannot believe we bought a Ford, it's funny how many Ford drivers come up to us and ask "What is that?" and lots of OO's and AW's after explaining it to them.
Enjoy your new C-Max Energi.