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Last post on May 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM
You are in the Ford C-Max Hybrid
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Ford C-Max, Car Buying, SUV
#30 of 39 Re: MPGs Low so far??? [bobw3]
Feb 19, 2013 (3:19 pm)
My wife is the primary driver of the C-Max she drives it 15 miles per day.
I did consider the Leaf but ordered a Ford Focus Electric that will be here Feb 26th to March 12th! My Commute is 80 miles per day.
The EPA / Department of Energy came up with an MPGe rating to compare electric vehicles. link title.
#31 of 39 Re: MPGs Low so far??? [robr2]
Feb 22, 2013 (2:53 pm)
Yes, I realize there's the EPA sticker, but I'm thinking more about the real-world comparison issues. Right now it's pretty easy for a person to manually calculate their fuel economy and then compare it to the EPA sticker or to others very accurately.
But once you throw in the plug-in factor it will be pretty much impossible for one plug-in owner to compare real-world numbers to someone else because not only do you need to factor in the type of driving (highway/city), but then how many of those miles are from plug-in power and how much more the electric bill cost for those miles.
I guess in the end we'll just to have to rely on EPA estimates, but was we can see with the C-Max Hybrid vs the Prius V, while the EPA lists the C-Max with better MPG, Consumer Reports found that in real-world driving the Prius V is better. But I think the days of going to someplace like fuelseconomy.gov or here on Edmunds to post your real-world MPG figures for comparison aren't practical with plug-ins.
#32 of 39 Re: MPGs Low so far??? [bobw3]
Feb 23, 2013 (9:16 am)
In reality, comparing your results in an ICE model versus another person's results in their equivilant ICE model isn't good either. To really compare, both vehicles have to be driven in the same conditions without any variation.
When you compare yourself to other drivers, you are comparing non equivalents.
#33 of 39 Re: MPGs Low so far??? [rrollntdi]
Feb 28, 2013 (8:46 am)
Hey... I found a setting in Fuel Economy that selects whether to figure electric use in to the average MPG calculation. Upon change this setting, it dropped my overall average from about 47 MPG to about 39.5 MPGe. The average now shows MPGe on the EMPOWER display, and others, and there is a greater fluctuation on the instant fuel economy calculation when on the battery alone. It's no longer pegged on 120+. This morning I got about 51 MPGe on my way in with 14 miles on a full charged battery at a temp 32 F. it would be interesting to see what others are getting with this setting enabled.
#34 of 39 Re: MPGs Low so far??? [rrollntdi]
Apr 16, 2013 (1:15 pm)
Better MPGe since it's a bit warmer. I tried going to work this morning, 50 degrees F, with the climate control off. I drove 21 miles on the battery and the car calculated 135.5 MPGe. It still had 2 miles left on the battery. Best economy so far .
#35 of 39 Re: Where is the SAVINGS??? [rrollntdi]
Apr 19, 2013 (11:38 am)
Well yes, you did only get 23 MPG on gas, but the time on gas included enough battery charging to drive a big part of your 191 electric miles. I have had a C-Max for a month now, and at the beginning of a trip, the car will usually run with the engine on while it heats up. During this time, it is also generally charging the battery. When charging the battery, you will note the arrow pointing up on top of the battery icon. Assuming you have the C-Max hybrid and not the Energi, then all of those 191 miles either came from battery charging during your 23 MPG period or regenerative braking. The bottom line is you did get 43 MPG overall. If you have the Energi, then you'd have to figure how much external electricity you used, and the the MPGe rating would be appropriate.
#36 of 39 press request
by kirstie_h HOST
Apr 25, 2013 (4:46 pm)
Did you recently purchase a car from the Detroit 3 (GM, Ford or Chrysler) after avoiding these domestic vehicles in the past? What made you change your mind? A reporter would like to ask about your experience. If you can help, please contact predmunds.com by Friday April 26th 2013.
#37 of 39 Re: press request [kirstie_h]
Apr 26, 2013 (9:03 am)
I have bought mostly domestic cars in the past with the exception of a Lexus ES300 in 1999 and a VW Jetta TDI in 2009. They were both great cars, but I found on both that the maintenance and repair costs were higher than I thought reasonable. These will hopefully be lower with the C-Max. It also gets mileage that far exceeds even the TDI.
#38 of 39 Re: press request [rrollntdi]
May 17, 2013 (10:00 am)
I'm surprised a C-Max "far exceeds" MPG as compared to the TDI. Do you mostly to city driving because on highways a jetta TDI will get in the 40s MPG.
#39 of 39 Re: press request [bobw3]
May 20, 2013 (9:28 am)
I drive about 23 miles one way to work. Most of the distance the speed limit is 40. If I don't use the automatic AC/Heat Climate Control, I get to work and still have about 4 miles of battery left and can get up to 155 MPGe on the screen. The highest with the TDI, mid Summer with no AC, was about 56 MPG, only one way. On the way home, I get between 47 and 66 MPGe. With the climate control on I still got about 38 to 44 MPGe in March (It's still cold in Detroit in March). My car has about 4,100 miles on it and over 2,400 miles have been driven on the battery power.