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#16 of 25 Re: Mazda - will SkyActiv dilute ZoomZoom? [wwest]
Aug 16, 2012 (7:17 am)
Ford is now working on a second fix for the condensation issue. So obviously... the are going to continue Ecoboost development, not 'abandon' it.
It is still utterly stupid to claim Ford is at a 'dead end' with Ecoboost, when most manufacturers are turning to forced induction because of its development potential, in term of power/torque AND FUEL ECONOMY.
Ford will continue to be on a sales roll for the foreseeable future.
To adulthood 'boy racer' wwest, everything you ever knew about turbocharged engines, even the 'patented' Ecoboost, has been proven wrong.
3 psi cruising at 65mph on the highway. 12:1 effective compression ratio. You literally wasted years of your life on this argument.
What did Ford tell you when you suggested your foolishly overcomplicated bi-compressor bi-modal heat-exchanging engine?
I'll bet they told you to pound sand, and now you're upset about it.
It's not nice to pick on people smarter than yourself, i.e. these 'rednecks' who all seem to know more about engines than you do.
#17 of 25 Re: Mazda - will SkyActiv dilute ZoomZoom? [bpizzuti]
Aug 16, 2012 (7:05 am)
I don't think Mazda is doing anything wrong, for the record.
I just think it is stupid to claim Ford is at a 'dead end' by someone who hasn't even made a single claim about how Ecoboost works correctly (I'm not referring to you.)
I think Mazda will be fine. Still a small maker, making safe decisions. They are going to go the same route as Ford in the end, having a mix of NA engines and turbocharged engines.
#18 of 25 Re: Mazda - will SkyActiv dilute ZoomZoom? [bigmclargehuge]
Aug 16, 2012 (7:23 am)
I didn't realize this would be one of the great debates of our time, or I would have titled the thread differently. Maybe we should invite someone in to represent EarthDreams from Honda too.
Do the other manufacturers have names for their fuel saving schemes? FIAT is using MultiAir on pretty much everything, but that seems to just be advanced CVVT.
#20 of 25 Re: Mazda - will SkyActiv dilute ZoomZoom? [bigmclargehuge]
Aug 16, 2012 (7:51 am)
I hear turbos are great for higher altitudes, but I personally just don't trust the additional complexity that much. It's another part to go bad, you know?
#22 of 25 Re: Mazda - will SkyActiv dilute ZoomZoom? [bpizzuti]
Aug 16, 2012 (9:08 am)
I personally would rather a turbo than any other car type.
I'm just not worried too much about the complexity. Diesels are often even more complex and I love them as well.
However, its totally subjective. I don't expect everyone to want to drive like me.
And again, I do like Mazdas handling. I don't think you can buy a bad mainstream car these days. They are all better than they used to be in their respective ways.
#23 of 25 More SkyActiv
Sep 19, 2012 (8:20 am)
Mazda is doubling down on SkyActiv, making a 2.5L version for the Mazda6 (and other applications maybe?). Does that reduce the need for a SkyActiv diesel here? With the discontinuation of the Mazda2, will we see a sub-2L SkyActiv?
I do wonder what they'll do with the CX-9 and it's V6...also kind of wonder when the mazda5 will get a SkyActiv engine.
#24 of 25 Re: More SkyActiv [bpizzuti]
Sep 19, 2012 (8:47 am)
I'm sure there is less than 50% chance we'll see the Sky-diesel in the US. Many manufacturers have promised and failed to deliver on the same promise time and again.
Shame too, sounds like a real class leader.
Interesting to see what kind of numbers the Sky-2.5 puts down in the Mazda 6.
#25 of 25 Re: More SkyActiv [bigmclargehuge]
Sep 19, 2012 (8:52 am)
I'd like to see the 2.5L go into the CX-5 and the Mazda5. Especially the latter, it'll be a very viable people-mover.