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#180 of 249 June Lease Rates for ATS 2.0T Premium
Jun 08, 2013 (7:50 am)
What is the current June lease rates for the ATS 2.0T Premium, for 3-years, 12,000mi/yr?
For that matter, I guess I'm looking for the June rates for the 2.0T Performance as well, with the same timeframe, in case I decide the Premium isn't worth the additional cost.
#181 of 249 Ordering a 2014
Jun 10, 2013 (9:36 am)
I guess you can only order the 2014's now according to the Cadillac dealer I visited on Saturday.
Unfortunately they also don't have any incentives/rebates or lease numbers on those 2014's yet, which I find a little strange if that's all you can allow customers to order if they walk into a dealer. There are no 2.0T Premiums to be found in the state in the color combo I want and with minimal options.
Am I supposed to order a new car without knowing the pricing, incentives, and lease rates?
Seems like a poor sales model from Cadillac to not provide the 2014 pricing early to dealerships, so at least people have the option of ordering one.
#182 of 249 No Marketing Offers
Jun 11, 2013 (10:06 am)
I've tried calling the Marketing number twice, and spent 5-10 minutes on the phone each time and did not receive any private offers, so I'm guessing that is no longer available.
#183 of 249 Re: June Lease Rates for ATS 2.0T Premium [ewellsie]
Jun 11, 2013 (2:18 pm)
Hi ewellsie. Ally's June base lease rate and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0T Luxury with 12,000 miles per year are 1.25% and 61%.
I believe that the numbers for the Performance trim level of the ATS are the same.
General Motors is currently providing an $800 cash incentive on 36-month leases of this car.
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#184 of 249 Re: No Marketing Offers [ewellsie]
Jun 11, 2013 (9:48 pm)
You could be right. I just stressed that I was looking at an ATS and mentioned that I had private offers from competitors (which is true)
#185 of 249 Re: No Marketing Offers [wonderwarthog]
Jun 12, 2013 (11:02 am)
Was there a time limit on the certificate?
I'm going to be ordering a 2014 model, so I may not even qualify for that if it's only good for 30 days so he may have skipped over it.
#186 of 249 Re: 2013 ATS 2.0T Performance RWD [cwyatt]
Jun 13, 2013 (1:50 pm)
Picked up my 2.0T Performance RWD last week. Loving it so far...
$45,240 MSRP (Sunroof, Cold Weather, and 18" Machine Finish)
$41,076.95 Cap Cost after $800 lease incentive and $1000 private offer
36months/15,000 per year
$468.04 Payment with tax after fees.
It was a back and forth ordeal trying to buy on a Saturday and ended up having to wait until Tuesday of the next week. I'm entirely satisfied with the deal. The payment is a little less than $100 over the payment on my non-leased 2012 Mazda3s Grand Touring that I got rid of after it was extensively damaged (but not totaled) in an accident.
#187 of 249 Need Opinions 2013 CC Sport vs. Cadillac ATS 2.5L
Jun 15, 2013 (4:35 pm)
I'm a young guy (going on 24) and I've been a Realtor since I was 18. Right now I'm in a lease on a 2011 Jetta 2.5 SE w/convenience (white gold/black) and pay $267.43 a month. My lease is up in 8 months (15,000 a year), but I'm at 37,000 miles now. My car has about $500 in damage (someone keyed the side) and the rims are a bit scuffed. Also afraid my A/C compressor is going ...
I need a more "important" looking car for work. Funny thing I make more money than most of the people I work with, yet clients have often given me a negative reaction from the car I drive so I want to upgrade. Honestly, I want to get into a new CLA but don't think it will be out in time for me to get out of my lease.
Here's what VW is proposing:
2013 VW CC Sport w/Lighting Package
Sales Price: $27966
15,000 a year
39 Month Lease
Payment: $341.01 (when I used my calculator I came up with $360 a month)
*When I do an online payoff VW Credit says I'd owe $15,500? Is VW waiving fees because I'm bringing it back in to them??
2013 Cadillac ATS 2.5L (base)
Sales Price: $30,631.96 (I guess this is MSRP minus $1608.04 dealer discount?? minus an additional $1,800 in incentives. People told me there is an additional GM marketing $1000 ... how do I get that? Do you think I could get more off the car or maybe a better model?)
Rate: .00052083 (1.25%)
15,000 a year
Trade: $14,500 (sight unseen they said they would match VW)
Payment: $330 a month
** Is it likely that since I'm going to VW to Cadillac that it's possible my payoff would be closer to the $15,000 that I got from online?
So CC would be premium gas, more down, but less insurance. ATS is not premium in gas, less down and MORE for insurance (not by much). CarMan ... which seems like the better deal? Could I get more off the Cadillac or at least a 2.5 with better rims or something ... (it seems VW gave me a pretty big discount)? I do think the CC looks a lot more expensive than the Cadillac, but ultimately the Cadillac might be less expensive ASSUMING my payoff won't increase since I'm leaving the brand.
Sorry for the long post ... I'm trying to be as smart as possible about this lease but don't have anyone to give me advice. Ideally I don't want to pay over $350 a month. Any other brands that could be suggested would be appreciated as well.
#188 of 249 Help on Lease
Jun 15, 2013 (5:22 pm)
Long time reader first time poster. I have four months left on my current lease. I am looking at
2013 ATS 2.5L performance package, cue system, rear camera...etc
Sales Price $32,991.00
The dealer said they can pay my current lease off. 4 payments left at around $1046. They want $1000 down, 36 months at $370-$380....10k miles per year. I countered and told him I don't pay a down payment. I want 0 down, and the figures are 36 months at $405-$415.
Is this a good deal? They let me take it home until Tuesday. Please help me.
Thanks for your time
#189 of 249 Re: Need Opinions 2013 CC Sport vs. Cadillac ATS 2.5L [bestornothing]
Jun 24, 2013 (3:12 pm)
Hi bestornothing. I completely understand where you're coming from. The vehicle that they drive seems to be very important to real estate agents and their clients. I think that purchasing a larger or a more prestigious vehicle would benefit your career. That sort of thing sounds strange, but in real estate it's probably true.
I have mixed feelings about leasing a vehicle for a real estate agent. On one hand, it's a business expense so leasing makes sense. On the other hand, you are likely going to rack up a ton of miles driving clients around and in turn go way over your mileage allowance and owe a huge excess mileage penalty...which you're seeing already.
The money factor that you were quoted on the CC lease is high. Is your credit in good shape? VW Credit's top tier lease money factor for a 36-month lease of a '13 CC Sport is only .00033.
Having said that, you are being given an amazing selling price on the new CC that you are considering and a great deal on getting out of your over-mileage Jetta early.
It is possible that it would cost you more to get out of your Jetta if you go through a dealer other than Volkswagen.
It seems like you're really on top of things here. Kudos. The CC looks like a very good deal if you get the money factor issue straightened out. If you can find an ATS that has been in dealer inventory since December 1st or earlier, there's another $1,000 cash incentive on leases. Other than that, it's really a toss up as far as which deal to go with.
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