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#484 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [milano327] by mikeo56

Dec 14, 2012 (4:54 pm)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 14, 2012 2:43 pm)
Nice post.
I knew it was not all doom and gloom out there with the 1.6 Escape.
The Fix is now in the Dealers hands.
 
Just came back from my dealer, service manager said they will try to get to my car today to do the fix on the recall
still got 3 hours left to go. I have yet to put 1 mile driving in my new Escape.
 
Myself, the salesman, and the service mananger spoke at length about the fix, and I am sure that FORD has taken care of the problem.
  
Will there be another problem ? I dont care FORD will fix it.
 
Taking it 1 mile down the street is not a problem for me.
I believe its not the end of the world that my Escape that has not seen my garage yet,
After a 7 week wait to have it delivered and a 2 week wait to have a fix because of the recall.
Its all good.
 
Tri Coat White SEL
Light Stone Leather
Technology Package

#485 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [milano327] by escapeism

Dec 14, 2012 (7:52 pm)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 14, 2012 2:43 pm)
You are right on the mark. The oil filter was way too tight on my 2.0. I got it off but I was really pissed. From what I've heard, the position of the oil filter on the 2.0 is better than the 1.6 so I feel for you.

#486 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [foxdared] by johnnyuma

Dec 15, 2012 (4:38 am)

Replying to: foxdared (Dec 12, 2012 8:34 am)
I live in a state that does not require labelling gas pumps (ie E10). Depending on where you live you may be hard pressed to find a station with "pure" gas. Do not assume that if there's no label on the pump then the fuel is not E10.
 
Here's my source http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html

#487 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [milano327] by robr2

Dec 15, 2012 (8:28 am)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 14, 2012 2:43 pm)
Then I suggest spending $10 and getting one of these:
 

#488 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [robr2] by milano327

Dec 15, 2012 (11:09 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 15, 2012 8:28 am)
I have several of those type of cap wrenches and none will fit the smaller FL-910-S or Baldwin filter. I also have a Snap-On three arm gripper type oil filter wrench that tightens the grippers as you turn the ratchet but it will not fit into the tight space either.
 
As tight as the filter is against the electric fan shroud I am not sure if even a small 3/8" drive ratchet will fit in the space. Plus, with all the other stuff in the way getting enough swing on any type of wrench is going to be difficult.
 
After working on it for as long as I did yesterday I was in no mood to go looking for a cap type wrench. It is done for a few months and the next time I go to the auto parts store I will look for one that will fit these filters.

#489 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [milano327] by milano327

Dec 15, 2012 (6:46 pm)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 15, 2012 11:09 am)
I am mostly on the old Corvette forums where technical items predominate, hardly any mention of gas mileage or electronic gizmos.
 
For those that may be interested the cap type filter wrench for the Motorcraft FL-910-S is 76 mm with 14 flutes. Advance Auto has them for about $6. I still don't know if they will fit into the limited space available with a wrench to operate them but I will try later.
 
Unfortunately the Baldwin filters are different; they are 75mm and have 15 flutes. I managed to find a 75mm/15 flute cap wrench at Autozone that seems to fit the Baldwin but space is still an issue.
 
Why do I use Baldwin filters? Several years ago fellow went out and bought every brand of filter he could get locally and cut them apart to inspect the construction and materials. His results are at the below link. Interesting reading.
 
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/opinions.html
 
Make sure you look at the Overview tab.

#490 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [milano327] by steve_ HOST

Dec 15, 2012 (7:09 pm)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 15, 2012 6:46 pm)
Unless you have access to how the filter material was produced you may as well be cutting the cardboard box in half. That media information is proprietary and highly guarded at the paper mill (assuming you're looking at paper media).
 
Looks like the same company that owns Baldwin makes Purolators too btw.

#491 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [steve_] by milano327

Dec 17, 2012 (7:25 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Dec 15, 2012 7:09 pm)
I re-read the study again and could find no reference to the technical aspects of the filter media other than the mention of which type of media the manufacturer is incorporating in their products.
 
Baldwin is owned by Clarcor while Purolator is a joint venture between Bosch and Mann+Hummel both German companies. There is no connection I can find between the two parent companies.
 
I am not suggesting that owners use Baldwin filters or any other filter on the market. I was introduced to them via the machine shop I use since they do a lot of machine work and re-builds of Marine, Stationary, over the road and off road diesel engines and hydraulic systems.
 
The value of the filter study to me is pointing out some of the highly advertised and popular filters are not up to their advertising hype and some "premium" filters are not worth the extra price.
 
But, to each his own after all it is their nickel.

#492 of 653 Re: 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change [milano327] by famaral

Dec 17, 2012 (8:08 am)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 14, 2012 2:43 pm)
YTube had a mechanic showing how to remove the filter. I used a strap wrench with a piece of tubing to extend the arm, it was hard to get it out even when it was off, due to the tubes under it. Also do not like the fact that because of the location it does not allow to put some fresh oil in the filter before putting the new filter back.
What synthetic and number did you use on your Escape.

#493 of 653 Oil filter review by lateralg

Dec 17, 2012 (9:45 am)

Replying to: milano327 (Dec 17, 2012 7:25 am)
The author makes some good points, but loses credibility with two significant oversights:
 
1) "Many filters have an anti-drainback valve to prevent dirty oil from draining back into the oil pan through the oil pump."
 
He totally misses the point on this. The purpose of the anti-drainback valve is to assure oil flow at startup. Some engines require this valve, some don't. It depends on the orientation of the filter. If the mounting surface faces down, oil will drain from the filter when engine not running. At startup, full oil flow isn't achieved until the filter is filled. Chrysler learned this the hard way on the original slant six 170/225.
 
2) "They also have a pressure relief or bypass valve that will allow oil to bypass the filter element in the event that it becomes too plugged to pass enough oil. This prevents engine oil starvation and the possibility of destroying the element, possibly causing pieces of it and the junk it filtered to enter the engine."
 
A more important reason for this valve is to allow bypass during and shortly after cold start. (Oil viscosity is higher, and the crud accumulated on the outside of the filter media is more resistant to flow). Bypass occurs failrly often, making the LOCATION of the valve very important.
 
It should be located at the base of the filter, allowing bypass to occur without oil flowing over the outside of the filter media ... scrubbing off and picking up contaminates as it does. Some filters have the bypass valve at the top, allowing the scrubbing to occur at cold start.

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