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#474 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [foxdared]
Dec 10, 2012 (1:50 pm)
It surprises me that some of you doubt that this car *can* get better fuel economy than you are experiencing. Where, when, how, what fuel, etc. all effect fuel economy. I have no trouble believing you get 19-22, but I have easily been achieving 25mpg or better for every tank so far. In fact, with over 4800 miles on my 2013 2.0l 4WD, I'm getting 27-29 routinely!
The overall indicated fuel economy (I never reset Trip 2's information) is now climbing over 26.1 from around 25.8.
Dec 11, 2012 (9:59 pm)
I have not had my Escape Titanium long (less than 2 weeks) but I've seen the Sync lock-up problem twice and, being the computer guy I am, went looking for possible causes:
1) If a second, unregistered blue tooth device is in the car, guaranteed it will mess up MySync at some time during the trip.
2) If you start the car, then turn it off before MySync loads completely, then turn the car right back on, MySync will often lock.
To get the problems cleared, I have to turn off the engine, get out of the car, and leave it alone until the accessory system shuts completely off, about 5 minutes.
In other words, MySync is acting just like Microsoft windows
#476 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 11, 2012 (10:30 pm)
What kinda gas do you use and which region do you live at? Curious. Like i said i love the car. If i could get that gas mpg, this would be the best car ever. I had ford service check it. Now at 3200mpg. Best ive seen with some restraint is 23mpg. 25mpg would be a dream.
Wonder how much before i get to break it in and how much it would really improve mpg.
Started an expt of switching to premium 92octane. Gonna do an N of three and actually drive the same routes for te next few weeks. See if there is any change. That 23mpg was the first 92 octane fill up. My 86 octane fill ups were 19-22mpg with restraint.
#477 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 11, 2012 (10:34 pm)
What kind of driving do you do: % city, $ highway. Is the city driving in a lot of traffic and lights, is it all flat, are your trips mostly short or long? My mileage is significantly worse in the city-14-16 mpg and my never reset trip 2 from the time I bought the car is 19.3 mpg. I do live in somewhat hilly terrain and do short trips but I drive very conservatively and get the Good Eco Driver message. I would love the car if it did better in mileage.
#478 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [cbc410]
Dec 12, 2012 (4:07 am)
I drive about 40/60 city/highway. It's in western virginia, mostly between the Blue Ridge and Appalachians, hilly rural roads, interstate 81, and in downtown Harrisonburg, VA. Admittedly, my 'city' driving isn't New York, DC, or downtown Chicago-like (been in all three, and this is far less congested). However, downtown Harrisonburg, traveling light-to-light, 35 mph max, watching the freshly reset AVG economy readout, I see no less than 17 mpg (17.5, actually seems hard to go under). In town it *does* drop rapidly to under 19 from the 25-28 range (it seems to start off wherever it left off just prior to the 'reset'). It absolutely *loves* highway cruising (I usually travel 65, in the 70 mph speed limited areas). Even when I traveled for a few tanks at the 70-75, I still saw 24-25 mpg routinely.
My 'regular' trips tend to be longer (30+ minutes), starting in Broadway, VA, traveling around 5 miles from a rural town (with stoplights and hillside starts- I lose quite a bit of fuel economy here..) to the interstate. Then it's 15 miles or so to Harrisonburg (sometimes on down to Weyer's Cave, Staunton, or Waynesboro), at 65 mph. Then off the interstate, into that stoplight / holiday / college / university traffic (another place that I watch the numbers drop).
I have used the regular E10 (87 octane) fuel for most of the time I've had this Escape, and that's what the majority of the 25-26 mpg results were from. I can't say for sure whether it's breaking in that's responsible for the recent increase to 27-29 mpg per tank or my switching to a local non-ethanol station's 73 octane straight gasoline fuel (3 fills), but I just filled my most recent tank with the cheap (MUCH cheaper!) Walmart E10 87 again, so I may find out soon..
Full disclosure- I've been using the indicated fuel economy from the DIC for my tracking purposes. I initially hand calculated the first 5 tanks or so, and all 5 were within .7 mpg of the indicated reading from the car. That says that my last 29 mpg tank may've actually been closer to 28 (or 30- but more likely less rather than more). Unfortunately, I don't buy into the hand-calculated-is-better-than-DIC thing any more. Different pumps shut off at different times, and even the same pump will shut off differently, for a variety of reasons. That means that there's a lot of variability built into the hand calculations. I'm not saying that the car's readout is guaranteed accurate, just that the fact that they are as close as they are means that neither is better than the other..
#479 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 12, 2012 (5:07 am)
I'm in northern Virginia, so a little more congested. Getting around 24-25 mpg on average. Went to PA this past weekend, longest trip in the new Escape since I have owned it. Fun to drive, At around 70mph I'm seeing 25-26 mpg. I am not a conservative driver. After an initial break-in period, I treat my transmissions exactly how I like to drive. Every car I have owned has lasted well over 200,000 miles with good maintenance. I expect nothing less from this vehicle. Thank my lucky stars I got the Titanium and not the 1.6.
#480 of 653 More problems with 2013 Escape and MyTouch/Blis
Dec 12, 2012 (6:30 am)
Sadly, I have had my new Escape in for service multiple times since our purchase in October. The MyTouch was extremely buggy, which was improved though not solved by the software update. The dealer had replaced the MyTouch before the update came out (didn't help). Now, I got a warning light on my BLIS system and was told not to rely on it in traffic until the MyTouch system, which apparently much of the technology runs through, is replaced again! I have had to have the car in to the dealer three times this week alone. Monday for a diagnostic, Tuesday for the MyTouch expert to diagnose it again (he only comes in twice a week) and now I have to take it back Thursday for the replacement. They definitely don't have all the bugs worked out of this system and I begin to fear I have a lemon!
#481 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 12, 2012 (8:34 am)
Extremely helpful usafan1. Im gonna try non e10 fuel. This forum is 50/50 on the mpg. Wonder if there is a variability in production from ford. Live in seattle and it does get hilly. But i drive with much restraint. Will report numbers. Im hoping i break the 25mpg mark!
#482 of 653 VOTED THE CAR OF THE YEAR
Dec 12, 2012 (10:16 am)
Ford Escape wins inaugural Car of the Year from Popular Mechanics
Popular Mechanics has unveiled its 2013 Automotive Excellence Awards, and not only is the Ford Escape among its 10 best vehicles, for the first time ever the magazine names a Car of the Year and Escape is editors’ choice for the award. Escape earned the honor for being “an affordable vehicle that excels in multiple auto excellence categories,” for its “excellent engine options, abundance of technology and great price.” Reviewers pointed out that “Escape is freshly minted, with a solid new chassis shared with the European Ford Kuga. The driving experience feels like it’s two full generational leaps ahead of the old Escape.” Read the full report here.
#483 of 653 2013 Escape 1.6 Ecoboost oil change
Dec 14, 2012 (2:43 pm)
I have been working on my cars for a very long time and have been restoring C2 (63-67) Corvettes for about 30 years. In July I bought a 2013 SE 1.6L escape with only the moon roof and Sync options and now have about 3100 miles on the car.
Being old school about oil changes, I decided today to change the oil for the first time since I wanted to use a full synthetic oil and my preferred Baldwin oil filter (B7491).
Changing the oil requires removal of the belly pan which is fastened with Torx screws at the front and rear and two 7mm screws on the sides of the pan. The oil drain plug is on the rear of the oil pan and easy to remove.
The oil filter on the other hand is not! I tried using a metal strap type filter wrench and the filter would not budge. There is not much room to get the wrench on the filter and virtually no room to swing the wrench once it is on the filter.
Although I didn't want to do it, I punched a hole on the filter to drain it and make an opening to insert a long screwdriver to try to move the filter. A 12 inch long screwdriver would not budge the filter. I finally got out a 16 inch pry bar and after punching another hole to get more room to swing the tool I finally got the filter to move a bit.
All-in-all it took me over two hours to remove the oil filter and then clean up the oil that drains on all the hoses and pipes that are in the way.
Unless you have a whole lot of patience I think I would let the dealer do the first oil change and wrestle with the factory gorilla installed oil filter.
I have been reading the problems that others are having with the Escape and other than the clock going off time every so often I am glad to say I have had none of them. My around town gas mileage has consistently been in the 24-25 range and on a 500+ mile trip with the A/C on I was getting almost 32 on I-95 running a steady 70 mph.
I have an el cheapo cell phone and it won't download the phone book but I really don't use it for anything but long distance and emergency calls anyway.
Being used to my '66 Corvette and Mustang GT I was expecting the performance of the 1.6 Ecoboost to be lacking but it performs quite adequately. So far so good!