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Dec 08, 2012 (11:14 am)
Just brought the Escape into the dealer & got a rental from Enterprise. What a piece of junk the rental is compared to the Escape, but hey, at least it won't catch fire right!
#472 of 653 FIX ON THE RECALL
Dec 10, 2012 (11:38 am)
Ford Motor Produces Fix In Voluntary Safety Recall Of 2013 Escapes, 2013 Fusions
(RTTNews.com) - Ford Motor Co. (F) announced a corrective action to address potential engine overheating that could result in engine fires in SE and SEL models of the 2013 Ford Escape and Ford Fusion models equipped with 1.6-liter engines. The vehicles were subjects of a voluntary safety recall announced November 30.
Ford said that to fix the condition, it will make softwarePosted Image updates to the cooling system of the 1.6-liter engine available in the SE and SEL models of the 2013 Ford Escape and 2013 Ford Fusion.
The software updates will better manage engine temperatures during a unique overheating condition that could occur under unique operating conditions. The original cooling system designPosted Image was not able to address a loss of coolant system pressure under certain operating conditions, which could lead to a vehicle fire while the engine was running, the company said.
Ford stated that it is now working to deliver the software and repair procedure to its dealers. The company will begin notifying customers so they can schedule service appointments with dealers.
Beginning early next week, customers will be able to get the software update at their dealer.
Until the cooling software is updated, customers driving 2013 Escape vehicles equipped with the 1.6-liter engine and 2013 Fusion models equipped with the 1.6-liter engine have been advised to contact their dealer to arrange for alternative transportation at no charge, the company said.
The company noted that 2013 Escapes equipped with 2.0-liter and the 2.5-liter engines are unaffected. 2013 Fusions equipped with the 2.5-liter and hybrid engines are also unaffected - as are all Titanium models.
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#473 of 653 Re: FIX ON THE RECALL [mikeo56]
Dec 10, 2012 (12:48 pm)
The software updates will better manage engine temperatures during a unique overheating condition that could occur under unique operating conditions. The original cooling system design was not able to address a loss of coolant system pressure under certain operating conditions, which could lead to a vehicle fire while the engine was running, the company said.
Ummm, Ya, Ummmm, WHAT!!??!!??!!
#474 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [foxdared]
Dec 10, 2012 (1:50 pm)
It surprises me that some of you doubt that this car *can* get better fuel economy than you are experiencing. Where, when, how, what fuel, etc. all effect fuel economy. I have no trouble believing you get 19-22, but I have easily been achieving 25mpg or better for every tank so far. In fact, with over 4800 miles on my 2013 2.0l 4WD, I'm getting 27-29 routinely!
The overall indicated fuel economy (I never reset Trip 2's information) is now climbing over 26.1 from around 25.8.
Dec 11, 2012 (9:59 pm)
I have not had my Escape Titanium long (less than 2 weeks) but I've seen the Sync lock-up problem twice and, being the computer guy I am, went looking for possible causes:
1) If a second, unregistered blue tooth device is in the car, guaranteed it will mess up MySync at some time during the trip.
2) If you start the car, then turn it off before MySync loads completely, then turn the car right back on, MySync will often lock.
To get the problems cleared, I have to turn off the engine, get out of the car, and leave it alone until the accessory system shuts completely off, about 5 minutes.
In other words, MySync is acting just like Microsoft windows
#476 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 11, 2012 (10:30 pm)
What kinda gas do you use and which region do you live at? Curious. Like i said i love the car. If i could get that gas mpg, this would be the best car ever. I had ford service check it. Now at 3200mpg. Best ive seen with some restraint is 23mpg. 25mpg would be a dream.
Wonder how much before i get to break it in and how much it would really improve mpg.
Started an expt of switching to premium 92octane. Gonna do an N of three and actually drive the same routes for te next few weeks. See if there is any change. That 23mpg was the first 92 octane fill up. My 86 octane fill ups were 19-22mpg with restraint.
#477 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 11, 2012 (10:34 pm)
What kind of driving do you do: % city, $ highway. Is the city driving in a lot of traffic and lights, is it all flat, are your trips mostly short or long? My mileage is significantly worse in the city-14-16 mpg and my never reset trip 2 from the time I bought the car is 19.3 mpg. I do live in somewhat hilly terrain and do short trips but I drive very conservatively and get the Good Eco Driver message. I would love the car if it did better in mileage.
#478 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [cbc410]
Dec 12, 2012 (4:07 am)
I drive about 40/60 city/highway. It's in western virginia, mostly between the Blue Ridge and Appalachians, hilly rural roads, interstate 81, and in downtown Harrisonburg, VA. Admittedly, my 'city' driving isn't New York, DC, or downtown Chicago-like (been in all three, and this is far less congested). However, downtown Harrisonburg, traveling light-to-light, 35 mph max, watching the freshly reset AVG economy readout, I see no less than 17 mpg (17.5, actually seems hard to go under). In town it *does* drop rapidly to under 19 from the 25-28 range (it seems to start off wherever it left off just prior to the 'reset'). It absolutely *loves* highway cruising (I usually travel 65, in the 70 mph speed limited areas). Even when I traveled for a few tanks at the 70-75, I still saw 24-25 mpg routinely.
My 'regular' trips tend to be longer (30+ minutes), starting in Broadway, VA, traveling around 5 miles from a rural town (with stoplights and hillside starts- I lose quite a bit of fuel economy here..) to the interstate. Then it's 15 miles or so to Harrisonburg (sometimes on down to Weyer's Cave, Staunton, or Waynesboro), at 65 mph. Then off the interstate, into that stoplight / holiday / college / university traffic (another place that I watch the numbers drop).
I have used the regular E10 (87 octane) fuel for most of the time I've had this Escape, and that's what the majority of the 25-26 mpg results were from. I can't say for sure whether it's breaking in that's responsible for the recent increase to 27-29 mpg per tank or my switching to a local non-ethanol station's 73 octane straight gasoline fuel (3 fills), but I just filled my most recent tank with the cheap (MUCH cheaper!) Walmart E10 87 again, so I may find out soon..
Full disclosure- I've been using the indicated fuel economy from the DIC for my tracking purposes. I initially hand calculated the first 5 tanks or so, and all 5 were within .7 mpg of the indicated reading from the car. That says that my last 29 mpg tank may've actually been closer to 28 (or 30- but more likely less rather than more). Unfortunately, I don't buy into the hand-calculated-is-better-than-DIC thing any more. Different pumps shut off at different times, and even the same pump will shut off differently, for a variety of reasons. That means that there's a lot of variability built into the hand calculations. I'm not saying that the car's readout is guaranteed accurate, just that the fact that they are as close as they are means that neither is better than the other..
#479 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape AWD titanium after 2850 miles. [usa1fan]
Dec 12, 2012 (5:07 am)
I'm in northern Virginia, so a little more congested. Getting around 24-25 mpg on average. Went to PA this past weekend, longest trip in the new Escape since I have owned it. Fun to drive, At around 70mph I'm seeing 25-26 mpg. I am not a conservative driver. After an initial break-in period, I treat my transmissions exactly how I like to drive. Every car I have owned has lasted well over 200,000 miles with good maintenance. I expect nothing less from this vehicle. Thank my lucky stars I got the Titanium and not the 1.6.
#480 of 653 More problems with 2013 Escape and MyTouch/Blis
Dec 12, 2012 (6:30 am)
Sadly, I have had my new Escape in for service multiple times since our purchase in October. The MyTouch was extremely buggy, which was improved though not solved by the software update. The dealer had replaced the MyTouch before the update came out (didn't help). Now, I got a warning light on my BLIS system and was told not to rely on it in traffic until the MyTouch system, which apparently much of the technology runs through, is replaced again! I have had to have the car in to the dealer three times this week alone. Monday for a diagnostic, Tuesday for the MyTouch expert to diagnose it again (he only comes in twice a week) and now I have to take it back Thursday for the replacement. They definitely don't have all the bugs worked out of this system and I begin to fear I have a lemon!