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#446 of 653 Re: Regular or Premium [automelon48]
Nov 30, 2012 (3:28 am)
I'm curious, why do you even see a need to use 91 octane? Towing? Mountain roads? or is it just personal preference? I've exclusively used 87 octane in my Titanium. I see no advantage to using 91 octane for the minor hp difference (BTW if someone has a 1.6L the hp difference is 5). I find it interesting that Ford recommends regular but the hp rating is based on premium:
#447 of 653 Powered Liftgate woes...........
Nov 30, 2012 (2:49 pm)
Bought my Ruby Red Escape 2013 in September. It has been in and out of the shop since then for 11 days trying to fix an intermittent problem with the powered liftgae (not the foot activated version).
At first it would not open... it would try, but not release the latch properly and then hang up. I would have to get out and manually open the liftgate. After a couple of trips to the shop, Ford went and replaced some parts in the liftgate, and we thought it was fixed. Nope.
Now, it won't latch properly when it closes. Goes down, tries to latch up... jiggles abit, then the latch gives up and remains unlatched.
This junk has been going on for over 2 MONTHS !!! It has been in the shop about 11 days in this time period.
I worked with the Regional Manager (who was very nice and tried his best to get it fixed). The Ford mechanics appeared to have tried their best to.
So what to do? Otherwise, the car is fabulous and works great (Sync and MFT work great too).
#449 of 653 Re: A New Recall [tim156]
Nov 30, 2012 (7:54 pm)
Buyers remorse, BIG TIME!!!
#450 of 653 Re: A New Recall [tinycadon]
Nov 30, 2012 (8:17 pm)
I am glad I live in a small town with the ford dealer only 5 minutes away so I can return the car to get fixed, yea, the one I have not got yet.
#451 of 653 Re: Regular or Premium [johnnyuma]
Nov 30, 2012 (10:22 pm)
Most of the reason is personal preference. Gas is "cheap" right now and I am trying to establish a baseline for performance, economy etc. I am using Shell 91 because I know that is one of the fuels that is 100% gasoline in this region. I will switch to a good quality 87 at some point to see if there is a measureable difference. When I tow my 1800lb trailer in the summer, it will be 91 for sure. Also, in my mind these engines are designed to run on 91. They just have the ability to run quite nicely on 87 if that's what you choose. Check out the requirements for the Range Rover Evoque, it has the same engine, but is marketed to people who are willing/able to spend more.
"Maximum power bhp rpm 240 5,500 Maximum torque lb/ft rpm 251 1,750" Fuel - Premium.
Thank you Ford for putting in enough engine management to allow us to run regular fuel, but when I can or need to, I will run Premium.
(by the way, I have seen 18 lbs of boost with this engine, I am sure it appreciates (utilizes) the octane at that pressure)
#453 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [automelon48]
Dec 01, 2012 (9:59 am)
Can you explain what the OBD-II port is and where to find it? I am getting horrible city mileage (13.5 - 16) but decent highway mileage (28 - 32). I live in a hilly area.
#454 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [cbc410]
Dec 01, 2012 (10:38 am)
The OBD-II port is a D shaped connector that you can plug a diagnostics tool into, to check engine codes, diagnostics etc. In the Escape there is door near the drivers left knee. Simply pull open the door and plug in a diagnostic tool. I Use an OBD-II Wi-fi transmitter which sends all of the data to my iPad. I downloaded an iPad app, and now I have more information than I could have imagined.
Remember "city" mileage will vary GREATLY depending on traffic etc. etc. etc.
Also, when you use the turbo a lot, you will be making a lot of torque/horsepower. There is no magic here, torque and Hp require fuel.
#455 of 653 Re: Regular or Premium [johnnyuma]
Dec 01, 2012 (11:04 am)
This is probably a topic for a different forum, but in general I am not a big fan of Ethanol. I will leave it at that.
If people are looking at fuel consumption, they will see a difference with more Ethanol being added. To see for yourself, go to www.fueleconomy.gov and look at an E85 vehicle. (2012 Chev Impala FFV for example) It's rated 30Mpg highway on gasoline, and 22Mpg highway on E85.
It does look like the 2013 Escapes are rated to run E15. It also concerned me in the article when it says that one customer is using E15 in his 10 year old pickup truck and it "runs fine". The problem is, if the vehicle components were not designed to accept that much alcohol, then he is damaging his vehicle, and he just doesn't know it yet.
There are special materials that must be used in an engine and fuel system, so that they will not sustian damage from alcohol.
Again, I think this topic is best suited in another forum, as it is very general in nature. It affects all vehicles, not just Escapes.