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#437 of 732 Re: New to Escape [donl1]
Nov 29, 2012 (1:45 am)
Ordered my AWD Titanium on 9/26, received on 10/30. Options were moon roof and parking package (wanted BLIS and B/U camera - had to get park assist too), no nav system. So far very happy! We've not had any problems with the vehicle. First 1700 miles overall about 25 MPG. I'm new to the Escape as well but not to Ford (1971 Pinto, 1981 Escort, 1998 Merc Mountaineer and 2008 Fusion).
#438 of 732 Regular or Premium
Nov 29, 2012 (5:18 am)
I noticed that Ford recommends using premium on the 2.0T. Is there any downside to using regular in terms of performance or gas mileage?
#439 of 732 Re: Regular or Premium [cmuniz]
Nov 29, 2012 (5:34 am)
They recommend premium fuel for towing or conditions where more horsepower is needed, such as mountainous driving. I've been using a quality 87 octane fuel since day one with no power or economy issues.
#440 of 732 Re: New to Escape [donl1]
Nov 29, 2012 (9:10 am)
I too have been a lurker here for about 7 weeks, 6 weeks ago I ordered my SEL 1.6 FWD with the 302A package Platinum White Tri Coat, those Ruby Red ones look really nice but at the lot I noticed any scratches stand out so we went with White, with Tan Leather, should get it anytime.
I will report mileage ect. when we get it.
Do you guys drive around town until broken in or get it out on the HWY?
#441 of 732 Re: New to Escape [mikeo56]
Nov 29, 2012 (9:12 am)
You'll probably get many opinions, so I'll give you mine. Drive it like you would everyday. During the initial break in period, take it out on one or two 200 mile Sunday freeway road trips and enjoy the drive. Vary the speed between 55 and 75-85 and once or twice take it up to 100 or so. Drive some two lane roads that have varying speed limits and a few towns you have to slow down and stop. Stop and buy something from a small town business and have a home cooked meal at a small cafe. Of course, all of this is just a suggestion, but it worked for me.
#442 of 732 Re: Regular or Premium [cmuniz]
Nov 29, 2012 (3:47 pm)
Here's a summary of what I've read when I researched this question: 87 and 91 octane fuel has the same energy content. No effect on MPG. There's a minor decrease in hp when using regular I recall about 5-9 hp. However there'll be a minor decrease in MPG when using fuel with 10% ethanol (about 2-3%). Ethanol has about 20-25% less energy than regular gas. BTW EPA MPG figures are based on 100% gas (no ethanol).
#443 of 732 Re: Regular or Premium [johnnyuma]
Nov 29, 2012 (5:30 pm)
Here is what fueleconomy.gov says
"Most of the gasoline now sold has a small amount of ethanol in it—up to 10% by volume depending upon the region. Using gasoline with 10% ethanol decreases fuel economy by 3–4%.
The energy content of gasoline varies seasonally. Typical summer conventional gasoline contains about 1.7% more energy than typical winter conventional gasoline."
You are correct, 87 and 91 Octane have the same energy content. 87 Detonates easier, in the face of heat and pressure, 91 resists burning until faced with higher temperature and pressure, this is why a turbocharged engine will thrive on higher octane.
Ford, and many others have been able to manage the 87 fuel in a high pressure turbo engine with the help of knock sensors, variable valve timing, ignition timing etc.
In the 2.0T it makes a difference of 9Hp. Fuel mileage difference should be minimal. I have not checked yet, as I have only run 91 for my first 4 tanks.
In the old days, running 87 octane in this type of engine would have been harmful. Nowadays the technology is so good, the controls in the engine can adapt to whatever you are putting in.
Nov 29, 2012 (7:29 pm)
"Ford is extending the warranty and offering another upgrade that enhances the voice-recognition and navigation technology on its much-criticized MyFord Touch infotainment system, Mark Fields, soon to be the automaker's chief operating officer, told reporters Wednesday at the Los Angeles Auto Show.
The warranty on the MyFord Touch system will now last for five years, up from three years. MyLincoln Touch will carry a six-year warranty, said Ford spokesman Alan Hall."
Ford to extend warranty, update software for MyFord Touch (Detroit Free Press)
#445 of 732 Re: New to Escape [mikeo56]
Nov 29, 2012 (8:04 pm)
Signed our contract tonight for our Escape even though we did not take delivery of it. The salesman called us and asked if we would do so that way he could get closer to his bonus for the month ( I think)
Anyway no problem, we still drove away with an SEL 2.0
We ordered an FWD 1.6 SEL White Platinum Paint and the 302A package should be in any day been 6 plus weeks.
So we got a $1500 Cash Back and a $500 Ford Credit $2,000 total
We paid $29,918 minus the $2,000 so $27,918 no taxes since we live in the state of OREGON, oh yea, plus $150 for license and processing fee.
I also opted for an extended service plan for 5 Yrs or 60k miles
from National Warranty for $1,000
Dont know if I should have or not but we will find out in the Years 3-5
Mixed reviews on those warranty's.
We usually keep ours cars for longer than that.
So all in all we got a new car in the garage tonight.
#446 of 732 Re: Regular or Premium [automelon48]
Nov 30, 2012 (2:28 am)
I'm curious, why do you even see a need to use 91 octane? Towing? Mountain roads? or is it just personal preference? I've exclusively used 87 octane in my Titanium. I see no advantage to using 91 octane for the minor hp difference (BTW if someone has a 1.6L the hp difference is 5). I find it interesting that Ford recommends regular but the hp rating is based on premium: