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#418 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape SEL 4WD no nav [southtx]
Nov 25, 2012 (2:37 pm)
The update was released on 11/5 and my source is a Ford tech who posts on the Blue Oval Forum. I know that is not a documented source, but I trust his posts to be accurate and truthful. We may be reading the same thing, but it seems most of the troubles are still with the NAV systems. I don't have NAV, I self updated and other than two clock hiccups, which seem to have resolved itself, I'm not having any problems with radio, USB, Sirius, album art or song identification with MFT.
#419 of 653 2013 Ford Escape Titanium
Nov 26, 2012 (12:49 am)
I got my escape the start of October. Since then brought it back 3x for the Nav system glitches. The last two were updated with this newest software. I started a log book. When I park my car >30mins, My nav takes 5-7mins to have GPS coverage. This is ridiculous for the amount of money I am paying to get top of the line. I cannot sit in the car for 5-7 mins each time before I go about work. Especially since the nav system was one of the reasons for getting a new car. 4th time would be a lemon in the state of Washington. I really do want to keep the car but will declare lemon if not fixed.
Also, MPG rating is way off. Im 2400 miles into it, still getting 18-22mpg. All Hway with barely stepping and easy on acceleration, Vancouver to Seattle, shy of 23mpg. No where near 21-28mpg. Will try no ethanol and see. Should at least be easy to hit 24 but not. it seems FORD was trying to look good at the expense of long term customers, who WAS cheering for the company to make it.
#420 of 653 Ford Escape 2013 1.6L Engine Noise
Nov 26, 2012 (7:16 pm)
I recently purchased a 2013 ford escape with a 1.6L Eco Boost engine from Lundgren Motors in Eveleth, MN. There is a very annoying engine noise that is driving me crazy. The noise has a pinging or ticking sound. The noise is present at all engine RPMís above idle and the frequency scales with engine RPM. The noise is coming from the dash/firewall on the passenger side. The noise is noticeable only from inside the car when the windows and doors are closed. I keep the radio on to drown out the noise. Iíve had the car in dealership and they inform me that this noise is normal and is coming from the fuel injection system. Iíve driven other 2013 1.6L Ford Escapes and none of them have this noise. Therefore, Iíve concluded that this ďnoiseĒ is not normal. The dealership is not interested in working the issue and wants me to go away. Iíve tried to isolate the source of the noise with little luck. I did hear the noise signature on one of the fuel lines with a mechanical stethoscope. Does anyone have this same issue?
#421 of 653 Back-up Camera and Mileage
Nov 27, 2012 (8:42 am)
We've had 4 Escapes and liked them all. Considering trading in one of the older ones - already rushed to get a 2012 on another trade, but realize we'll have to bite the bullet at some point on the new version- and have two comments and two questions:
comment 1 - why the heck did they reduce the gas tank size? When you look at the range for city, combined, or highway - the extra mpg doesn't make any noticeable difference. All the ranges are within a few percent of each other. It seems like the highway mpg isn't too realistic, anyway. If you drive at 55 on NJ highways, you'll be flattened.
comment 2 - another thread has confirmed that the hatch opening height - the height from the load floor to the inside top of the hatch door frame - is shorter than the previous version. The boxiness of the previous model was one of the best features. Has anyone with a new model found the reduced hatch opening height to be an issue?
question 1 - back-up camera was included with nav system in earlier models. It's not clear if this is still the case, or whether you now have to buy the $995 parking tech package in addition to the $750 nav price. Admittedly, the nav option was more expensive in prior models, so maybe it works out the same.
question 2 - if you get the nav system, you can't get the upgraded Sony sound system?
Thanks, fellow Escapees!
#422 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [bretcamp]
by steve_ HOST
Nov 27, 2012 (9:11 am)
Smaller gas tanks means the car weighs a bit less and helps Ford meet CAFE mpg standards. It's not a lot of weight but it all adds up.
#423 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [bretcamp]
Nov 27, 2012 (11:42 am)
I have the nav system, it is the upgraded sony sound system with a 'sub' hehe
and when I got mine to get the camera, you had to get the parking package. I like the bliss, crosstraffic... i dont care for, and auto park i dont care for. but the camera is a must
I would love a +5 gallon tank
the hatch height... never noticed a difference from the tribute
#424 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [steve_]
Nov 27, 2012 (11:48 am)
The new model outweighs the old model even with the smaller tank. My mixed driving range has dropped from 285-310mi with the 2010 Escape to 235-260 with the new 2013 Escape. Not only that, I religiously hand calculate my mileage and during the 1st 3 months I was getting 23.5mpg with the 2010 and now I'm getting 18.9mpg. And they were both purchased in July so temp/gas formula has nothing to do with it. For whatever this is worth???
#425 of 653 Re: 2013 Ford Escape SEL 4WD no nav [tim156]
Nov 27, 2012 (1:07 pm)
Well, this is certainly in keeping with what Ford 'Customer Care' told me. Which was when they fix it they'll let the dealers know, but won't be making any effort to let owners know. And apparently, the dealers aren't going to tell you unless you take it in and ask (if they even know). At the very least, I would have expected some kind of Email notification from the SYNCmyRide website, but I didn't see one.
We also had the radio 'on by itself and wouldn't turn off' again last weekend . And like a few times before, it stayed on with the vehicle shut down and the doors opened (which should 'kill' the designated power delay however long that is).
Changing the subject a bit, I've noticed a LOT of wind noise at the windows... much more than any other vehicle I can remember. Haven't mentioned that to the dealer yet, but I will when we take it in for them to isolate a 'wet' problem they noticed during an oil change.
#426 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [tinycadon]
by steve_ HOST
Nov 27, 2012 (3:17 pm)
How many miles on yours now?
Winter-blend gas can make your mileage go down. Three and a half mpg seems like a bit much though.
#427 of 653 Re: Back-up Camera and Mileage [steve_]
Nov 27, 2012 (4:50 pm)
My wife has a '13 AWD 2.0 with about 1750 miles on it.
It has averaged just over 22 mpg in the month and a half she has owned it.
I checked the mileage for her '09 over the same period and it was about 20.8, although it had about 8k on it by then.
That must have been a cold spell here in the northeast back in '09 because checking the mileage i got in the '02 Explorer, it could barely keep it's head above 13 mpg for the same period.
I was averaging close to 16 mpg with it before November this year and my last couple of tanks have been around 14.5.