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Jul 15, 2012 (1:26 pm)
Nope, the dash looks fine to me. Why don't you like it?
I learned that what one person likes, the next person won't. No matter how bad a color is to the masses, there will always be someone who likes it.
Lower revs are fine up to a point. There comes a point where an engine will "lug" and that is very bad on an engine.
But, if people think the more gears the better, I'm sure Honda and others will make this happen.
A frightening thought to think Honda may use the same transmission as Chryslers!
#10 of 38 Re: yep [isellhondas]
Jul 15, 2012 (3:09 pm)
No matter how bad a color is to the masses, there will always be someone who likes it.
Very true! Which is why so many Corollas and Civics are still being sold even though they are arguably two of the worst cars in their class.
There comes a point where an engine will "lug" and that is very bad on an engine.
Something known as "downshifting" will take care of that. Automatics do that... automatically. With a stick, well, you can lug away all you want.
As for the Civic's dash... other than looking and feeling cheap to me, especially compared to almost every Civic competitor except the new Versa, I have no problem with it. Problem is... seems as if a LOT of folks agree. Though not everyone, clearly.
#11 of 38 Re: 2012 Civics to be sold out before 2013 arrives? [joeep23]
Jul 22, 2012 (6:22 pm)
There will be on 2012 -- with 10K miles on it -- floating around. I'm giving up and trading mine in. My back hurts every time I drive the car -- and I don't have back problems. I gave it to my daughter for the last couple of months and my back problems have totally disappeared. It's ridiculous to have a new car that I don't enjoy driving. I think the problem is that I'm 5-1 and the lumbar support is too high, or the seat bottom is too low. I've tried a couple of cushions -- they help, but I'm never really comfortable. Hope I can get a reasonable deal. I know I'll take quite a hit, but my back is worth it.
#12 of 38 I see nothing wrong with the 12 Civics
Jul 23, 2012 (6:49 am)
Don't know how people can complain about the 9th generation when the 8th and 7th were so popular yet their interiors were much worse in my opinion. The 12 Civic is a great small car and not really that small anymore but a midsize.
#13 of 38 Re: 2012 Civics to be sold out before 2013 arrives? [nancymj58]
Jul 23, 2012 (8:28 am)
I would choose my replacement car very carefully. I have never heard of anyone having back problems after driving a Honda but I'm sure one out of 1000 will. How will you know a different car will help unless you drive it a great distance?
Jul 23, 2012 (8:34 am)
I don't know how you can say that Corollas and Civics are two of the "worst" cars in their class.
YOU don't like the 2012 Civics but they are great cars! Like all Hondas, they will run well after 200,000 miles and they will have great reliability. they will hold their values as no other car can.
The critics didn't like the fact that Honda made few changes and I suppose this is true. Honda tends to rest on their laurels a bit. Look for some big changes in the 2013 Civics and especially the Accords!
Jul 23, 2012 (8:52 pm)
Fanbois want the Integra and Civic Si hatchback to return, so anything else is 'inferior'. But then how many Hyundai Elantras see 200k miles?
Only things that seem cheap are the console sides, parking brake lever, and radio surround. No squeeks, rattles, loose parts or fading letters.
5-10 years from now, on used car market, buyers will say 'It's a Honda, they have good rep, I'm interested' not "Fan boys say the interior parts were cheap back in '12..." Who cares in the long run about some tiny bits?
#16 of 38 Re: fan kids [tomcatt630]
Jul 24, 2012 (8:00 am)
Well, Honda DID bring back the Civic SI Hatchbacks in 2002 and they didn't sell well.
People kept asking for V-6 Accord sedans with a manual transmission so Honda caved in and made some. They were dismal failures.
I tend to judge cars based on how they look and run after 150,000 miles.
Based on that, I'll take a Honda over anything else.
#17 of 38 Re: 2012 Civics to be sold out before 2013 arrives? [nancymj58]
Jul 25, 2012 (12:16 pm)
Just traded my 2012 EX-L in Friday after having it for just over a year. Like you, I've started having back pain with the seats (and I'm only 24). Granted, maybe it would last to 200,000 miles, but within the first year of owning it, it developed a strange shaking when approaching 55 mph, the blower motor for the HVAC was going out, exhaust rattled (in addition to the myriad of other rattles, squeaks, and noises), and the leather seats were wearing through on the outside bolstering of the driver side in addition to the splitting leather in the back seat.
I did not drive aggressively and I religiously cleaned and treated the leather seats. I have very serious doubts about the quality of the 2012 models due to the cheapness of the car, but hope for everyone else's sake that mine was a lemon.
In any case, because of the rapid development of the aforementioned problems over the past month, and in light of how many miles I drive per year, I know that warranty would run out by May 2013 and I'd be stuck footing the bill for any new problems cropping up.
I ended up buying a new 2012 Buick Verano, and even though I gave up the great gas mileage of the Civic, the fit and finish, quietness, style, amenities, and length of warranty were worth it. Moreover, I ended up paying about $100 less than what I paid for the Civic new (I purchased both quite a bit below sticker).
I know some may argue about GM cars' reliability, but I think Honda's reputation may no longer hold water and I wasn't willing to stay in the car to find out.