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#2 of 38 Re: 2012 Civics to be sold out before 2013 arrives? [joeep23]
Jul 06, 2012 (5:59 pm)
That might be a valid projection. I just did an inventory search for new Civics in the USA, per cars.com there's 37,265 of them. Honda sold just over 28,000 Civics in the USA in June, just over the 27,000 average sales each month for the first 6 months of the year. That's roughly 900 sales per day. Based on that, 37,265 is a 41 day supply. If no more 2012 Civics are built, very possible dealers will run out by late August.
However, the 2013 Civic is supposed to be significantly improved over the 2012. So if you don't get a 2012, you might pay a little more for a 2013 but get a better car.
#3 of 38 Re: 2012 Civics to be sold out before 2013 arrives? [joeep23]
Jul 13, 2012 (5:25 pm)
I used to watch people outsmart themselves every year.
For some reason there seems to be this idea that cars will get cheaper as the inventories dwindle and that just isn't so.
The popular models and colors sell first and those who wait and wait end up with the leftovers and they don't pay any less money.
There isn't much profit in a Civic to begin with.
Jul 14, 2012 (12:23 pm)
The criticism of the 2012 was unwarranted, from fan boys who want every car to be 'sporty'. It is a decent value and I am satisified with mine, I dont expect a 'super luxurious interior' in an 18K$ car. Also, don't want to be a 'beta tester' for infotainment systems and shuddering auto-clutch trans.
#5 of 38 Re: yep [tomcatt630]
Jul 14, 2012 (1:50 pm)
Totally agree. The critics think Honda didn't change the Civic enough.
Change it too much and people won't like that either.
Some people want EVERYTHING on what is susposted to be a low priced car and then they complain about the price.
#6 of 38 Re: yep [isellhondas]
Jul 14, 2012 (2:07 pm)
Not "everything"... just a decent-quality interior, given it's one of the highest-priced cars in its class. Just a return of the crisp handling Civics used to have. Maybe a more modern transmission, i.e. 6 cogs like most of its competitors have. Maybe a tad less road noise--no, it's not a luxury car but the road noise is excessive for its class.
The verdict is in, and it's pretty consistent: the 2012 Civic is a big disappointment. Honda agrees. But some folks will buy (or sell?) anything Honda offers, without question, because it's Honda. Brand loyalty is a great thing--for the automaker.
Jul 14, 2012 (3:20 pm)
For the life of me I fail to see anything wrong with the interiors.
Why add another speed to the transmission when it is so smooth and efficient as it is already. Why not give it ten speeds if "more is better"?
Road noise is less than before but could be lower, I agree.
Yes, it IS a Honda and ten years and 200,000 miles later it will show it's strengths as no other.
Jul 15, 2012 (2:26 pm)
Nope, the dash looks fine to me. Why don't you like it?
I learned that what one person likes, the next person won't. No matter how bad a color is to the masses, there will always be someone who likes it.
Lower revs are fine up to a point. There comes a point where an engine will "lug" and that is very bad on an engine.
But, if people think the more gears the better, I'm sure Honda and others will make this happen.
A frightening thought to think Honda may use the same transmission as Chryslers!
#10 of 38 Re: yep [isellhondas]
Jul 15, 2012 (4:09 pm)
No matter how bad a color is to the masses, there will always be someone who likes it.
Very true! Which is why so many Corollas and Civics are still being sold even though they are arguably two of the worst cars in their class.
There comes a point where an engine will "lug" and that is very bad on an engine.
Something known as "downshifting" will take care of that. Automatics do that... automatically. With a stick, well, you can lug away all you want.
As for the Civic's dash... other than looking and feeling cheap to me, especially compared to almost every Civic competitor except the new Versa, I have no problem with it. Problem is... seems as if a LOT of folks agree. Though not everyone, clearly.
#11 of 38 Re: 2012 Civics to be sold out before 2013 arrives? [joeep23]
Jul 22, 2012 (7:22 pm)
There will be on 2012 -- with 10K miles on it -- floating around. I'm giving up and trading mine in. My back hurts every time I drive the car -- and I don't have back problems. I gave it to my daughter for the last couple of months and my back problems have totally disappeared. It's ridiculous to have a new car that I don't enjoy driving. I think the problem is that I'm 5-1 and the lumbar support is too high, or the seat bottom is too low. I've tried a couple of cushions -- they help, but I'm never really comfortable. Hope I can get a reasonable deal. I know I'll take quite a hit, but my back is worth it.