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Honda Civic, Future Vehicle, Coupe, Sedan
Jan 02, 2013 (3:07 pm)
Like you we had a flawless 2009 EX-l with Navi that we kept for 42 months. A wonderful car! I like the much needed changes on the 13 Civic as we had given up on the 2012 all together. What I still don't like is that stationary front door's window fixed glass partitions, done I think as a cheap out, they also filled in the extra little triangle windows beyond the front doors and just behind the windshield and mounted speakers there on the inside and plastic fillers on the outside. That is no good as it cuts off some much needed visibility around the thick A pillars!
We ended up trading for the Acura ILX Tech which is based on the Civic but has none of the cheap out on the front door windows ie a full driver and passenger window without the stationary fixed partition. If you are going for a "loaded" Civic, do take a look at the ILX. They are cutting some good deals.
#11 of 37 Re: About time! [robtroxel]
Jan 02, 2013 (6:37 pm)
Discounts on the 2012 Civics are running about $3,000.
What does anyone think the 2013's will go for?
Aside from the dash, I think I would prefer the price of the 2012 over the "improvements" of the 2013. Coming off a Buick, I prefer the softer and more comforatable ride.
Right about visiblity... not that good.
#12 of 37 Re: Just Saw One [sandman_6472]
Jan 09, 2013 (11:28 am)
It sounds like Honda was listening. A good thing.
Still, there will always be some who will think the 2012's are somehow better than the 2013's or they will feel that Honda didn't do enough.
The tailights that you like will be knocked by others and some won't like the "nice" chrome strip on the trunk etc.
I used to hear it all. The "horrible" color that a lot of people can't stand is the ONLY color someone else will take.
So much is subjective. I learned to just smile and tune things out.
#13 of 37 Re: Just Saw One [isellhondas]
Jan 09, 2013 (1:10 pm)
Well, I really liked it and would be very happy to own one now as I was really turned off by the '12. A vast improvement!
#14 of 37 Re: Just Saw One [isellhondas]
Jan 09, 2013 (5:39 pm)
My 2 cents...I purchased a 2012 Honda Civic Sedan in October 2011. It wasn't my first choice for a vehicle but I won't get into that. I have not yet seen the 2013 except for photos here. I absolutely agree with isellhondas that "so much is subjective." I would like to have some of the new features of the "refreshed" Civic, such as better safety, quieter, and smoother ride (not that mine rides bumpy), but I do not like all the silver trim. I think it looks cheap. Also, I prefer the body style of the 2012. And I still don't like the double dashboard and all the digital displays; looks ridiculous. So there you go. In a few years, I hope to move up to an "adult" vehicle, such as a Lexus or Subaru SUV, which I should have purchased in the first place. BTW, I'm a "young" mid-age woman, who often forgets she's middle-aged. I think the 2013 Civic will be popular with the younger crowd.
#15 of 37 Re: Just Saw One [tmont562]
Jan 09, 2013 (7:09 pm)
Safety and quieter ride are probably marginal over the 2012.
I believe the 2012 has a smoother ride, from what I've read. The 2013 suppose to give better handling... sacrificing the smoother ride.
Like the double dash, looks pretty cool.
#16 of 37 Honda should unceasingly continue to push the envelop
Feb 10, 2013 (4:49 pm)
This is a little more elaborate comment I placed on the 2013 Civic Ex review.
I was suppose to purchase a compact care for commuting back in 2012, as I'm passing my '99 Civic to my college bound daughter in a couple of years. After checking out the 2012 Civic, I was totally disgusted. My impression then was 'Honda is going down hill'. Time to defect, and that's a petty strong statement from a family of Honda owners.
I started researching Elantra GT, because it has good MPG, and a hatchback. Nice as it may be, after I read that its MPG rating was downgraded, I have the gut feeling Hyundai wasn't being upfront with the consumers. Next I tested the Maxda CX-5, I absolutely love on first sight. When I took it for a spin in the country back road, I was tailgated by another SUV, I thought I was able to pull away from it, but I had to almost floor the gas pedal at the same time down shift to make the speedometer move. I was not even in hilly terrirtory. It feels as if Mazda has geared the CX-5 for fuel economy and I thought it was under powered. I do like the blind spot indicator in the Touring version and though this should be standard equipment in every car in future.
The Ford Focus SE Hatchback was the next vehicle I researched and test drove. I was pretty impressed by the interior of the Focus, with big screen display. The interior was comfortable, but the rear is on the tight side. During the test drive, I accidentally took a wrong turn into a residential area up the hill. After I did an about turn, and on the way down I thought the brake was not functioning (there were 3 of us including me), as it failed to grip immediately. At the last possible moment the brakes caught on, and I almost went pass the stop sign into the main traffic. The handling of the Focus is good on straight roads, when I took a turn to exit the highway and another turn immediately to the dealership, I had the sense it's not controllable.
I reluctantly went to the Honda dealership, after reading write ups on some of the improvements Honda had made to the 2013 Civic. I'm not sure if it drives like a full size sedan, but it was a pleasant experience with little to no road noise transferred into the cabin. Also, the new Civic seem a lot more responsive than the other vehicles I've test-driven. It also has more refined materials in the entire cabin compared to the 2012 model, and that was when my impression of the Civic started changing. Yes, it doesn't take much being a long-time Honda owner.
My conclusion: The Civic is back in the game of top compact cars to consider. The Ford Focus and Hyundai Elantra are serious contenders. But since Honda is willing to make such a drastic on the positive side to benefit their customers in such an unbelievably short time frame , I am willing to consider it in my purchasing decision again.
On a separate note, I am now eagerly awaiting the 2014 Honda Fit (Novo) to downsize my V6 sedan. I read it is a complete redesign of the Fit,and called the Urban SUV, with targeted 40 MPG starting at $20k. I saw pictures and videos of it , and it tells me 'Honda gets it'.
Consumers will not tolerate paying top dollars for 2nd grade products. The danger of us migrating to another manufacturer is great with many nice and redesigned vehicles in the market. As BMW and Mercedes' ongoing effort in penetrating the sub $30k market looms, Honda should unceasingly continue to push the envelop on its line of vehicles.
#18 of 37 Re: About time! [jipster]
Feb 10, 2013 (8:02 pm)
If you are alright with the road noise and the somewhat spartan interior in the 2012 Civic, then you just saved yourself some money.
Another reason for going for 2012 Civic is if your situation requires you to have a car for a short term (6 to 18 months), or if you're in the habit of trading in your vehicle.
Since I am using the Civic as a commuter for the next 10 years, I'm going for the 2013.
Most importantly, DriveFun!
#19 of 37 Re: About time! [drivefun]
Feb 10, 2013 (8:48 pm)
People will be complaining of honda "road noise" till the end of time. No matter how well honda insulates its cars. Coming off a Buick regal, I thought the 2012 civic to be surprisingly quiet. Would like to see some test results comparing the 2012 and 2013 noise levels. Bet there's not much difference. The media and power of suggestion. Interior space the same. If anything they need to improve stereo speakers