Last post on Jun 13, 2012 at 12:41 PM
You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
What is this discussion about?
Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#7 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [ksayers]
Jun 12, 2012 (6:02 pm)
For the Outback, yes, this is a substantial change because it used the EJ25 engine in the 2012 and prior model years.
They're using the FB25 block, so it is the same block as in the Forester. Is that a problem? No. The Forester and Outback shared the same engine for twelve years until the Forester started using the FB25 as a mid-cycle refresh in 2011 and neither are, or have ever been, underpowered.
#8 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [ksayers]
Jun 13, 2012 (6:32 am)
I was hoping for DI and more power, maybe the 200 that Hyundai's 4 banger makes, but oh well.
The head redesign is a big deal because of all the gasket issues Subaru had in the past. This exorcises that ghost. I don't think Subaru has been hyping the engine at all - we have, because we recall the gasket failures.
You seek a dramatic improvement but I don't think you'll find it. It will be adequate, but not fast.
#9 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [ateixeira]
Jun 13, 2012 (11:07 am)
If it's more reliable, that's a "good thing". Adequate is also sufficient. I didn't expect "fast" out of the 4 banger. When I get above 7000 feet the power of any engine drops significantly, therefore, knowing if it has enough grunt power for that situation is a key item. Thanks for the reply !!
#10 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [ksayers]
Jun 13, 2012 (11:11 am)
You need a turbo! At altitude they lose much less power.
Too bad the Legacy GT is sedan only.
#11 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [ateixeira]
Jun 13, 2012 (12:02 pm)
...and discontinued for '13, from what I hear?
#12 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [xwesx]
Jun 13, 2012 (12:10 pm)
I guess the new WRX will sort of fill that role, in their eyes.
#13 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [ateixeira]
Jun 13, 2012 (12:18 pm)
It's like Bob said previously, though, we all complain about it, but did we buy one?
I'm torn for my next vehicle. I was leaning very heavily to a MT Fiesta, but now am reconsidering a bit. Things don't look promising for a North American Fiesta ST, which I would really like (depending on the pricing). I don't plan to buy until next spring (~ a year from now), so maybe other options will open up.
I plan to keep this next one for a long time, as will we keep our Forester, so I'm going to buy exactly what I want, not what I have to settle with. To that end, I actually haven't ruled out the WRX yet, even though the FE is less than desirable. It has other qualities that are worth considering....
#14 of 14 Re: Outback questions... [xwesx]
Jun 13, 2012 (12:41 pm)
I recommended a GT to a buddy, who still has it. 2005.
Fiesta ST does look fun, loved the colors they brought to the local auto shows.