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#32 of 39 Re: you'll be glad driverless cars are coming [mtnman1] by victor23

Oct 03, 2012 (7:25 pm)

Replying to: mtnman1 (Sep 29, 2012 1:34 pm)
...before the infrastructure is available...
 
Don't hold your breath. It took just about five years to screw up all our new cars with mandatory electronic stability control, and to make us pay for that in the process.

#33 of 39 Govt mandates? by victor23

Oct 03, 2012 (8:22 pm)

Actually, I would love a bit of "unwarranted" government encroachment upon some of our "liberties". To force people to learn driving seriously, in professional schools, and not just with a little help of your parent or friend. To mandate tough driver testing. To remove kids, geezers and loonies from behind the driving wheel. To enact and enforce tough distraction bans (phones, texting, anything). To nurture more common sense and personal responsibility. Then maybe we wouldn't need mandating anything driveless.

#34 of 39 just beginning by steve_ HOST

Oct 23, 2012 (7:59 pm)

"Get the cost down, figure out who's liable when two autonomous vehicles collide, and give us a button that returns control to the driver on fast mountain roads but lets the car do all the work in heavy traffic, and we're in!"
 
NHTSA Studying Self-Driving Cars, Talking to State DMVs (Inside Line)

#35 of 39 Re: just beginning [steve_] by fintail

Oct 23, 2012 (8:09 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Oct 23, 2012 7:59 pm)
Just one big issue - what to do about speed and camera generated revenues. I wonder if such systems could also be linked between cars and traffic controls to finally establish responsible light sequencing. I won't hold my breath.
 
I'd let the car take me home in the evening grind, but I wouldn't want the system if it couldn't be disabled at my own whim. Train the system to interact with human driven cars (and motorcycles, pedestrians, etc), and it might have a future.

#36 of 39 Re: just beginning [fintail] by steve_ HOST

Oct 23, 2012 (8:12 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Oct 23, 2012 8:09 pm)
LOL, if anything will kill driverless cars, it'll be the loss of speed cam revenue. Didn't think about that wrinkle.

#37 of 39 Re: just beginning [fintail] by victor23

Oct 23, 2012 (8:30 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Oct 23, 2012 8:09 pm)
give us a button that returns control to the driver on fast mountain roads
 
I wouldn't want the system if it couldn't be disabled at my own whim
 
Sorry, not gonna happen. Once give up your liberty/authonomy - gone forever. Example: you cannot fully disable ESC on many last model cars. They will tell you that this is a liability issue. One of those "code" words: "safety" or "liability". When you hear them, it means: "shut up and do what you are told". Maybe you'll be allowed to disable it only in specially designated areas with a preapproval of your "flight plan" (apply 10 business days in advance). SL of 35 mph will apply for any manually operated vehicle. "Fast mountain roads" - that is exactly where it will never be allowed, for "safety" reasons.

#38 of 39 Re: just beginning [steve_] by andres3

Oct 24, 2012 (8:36 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Oct 23, 2012 7:59 pm)
figure out who's liable when two autonomous vehicles collide,
 
Hold the engineers and politicians that decided autonomous driving vehicles was a good idea accountable and liable? Hahahahha.... it'll never happen.

#39 of 39 I Want My Donkey Cart! by mt2000

Oct 27, 2012 (12:28 pm)

"It will be a sad day when the pleasure of driving is taken from us. Just as bad as having electric cars eventually jammed down our throats. Our Government is becoming more and more oppressive. "
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Damn tru dat!
 
Where I live, they won't even allow me to take my donkey cart on the freeway!
 
Oppressive, I tell ya!
 
 

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