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#93 of 214 Re: 2013 OB Purchase [2013ob]
by andrewp2
Aug 06, 2012 (10:07 am)
Thanks! The Cross Trek XV seems to be like a modifed Impreza; my Impreza is smaller on the inside than the CX-5. From the brochures, the passenger volume on the CX-5 with moonnroof is 102.3, on the Outback with moonroof is 102.4 - nearly identical (the longer Outback has a larger cargo area). The CX-5 has a weak engine in terms of acceleration (the Outback may be slightly quicker) but handles really well, and is sporty to drive. I'm not expecting the Outback to be as fun to drive as the Mazda, but I hope with the 2013 changes it's at least somewhat of a pleasure. I'm basically unsure of which to buy - the Subaru has by reputation the best reliablility, best AWD, better radio (H-K sounds better than Mazda's Bose) and more cargo room, the Mazda has better fuel economy, is a lot of fun to drive, has the nifty 40/40/20 split rear seats, and with comparable features costs slightly less.
How good, in your experience, are Mazda AWD in snow? Much worse than than that of Subarus?
Thank you again for your input...
#94 of 214 Re: 2013 OB Purchase [andrewp2]
by ateixeira
Aug 06, 2012 (11:41 am)
FWIW I drove a CX5 (my sister was shopping) and then an Impreza back-to-back, and the 2l engine struggles to move the weight of the CX5. You get a lot of noise and not much results.
The same size engine in the lighter Impreza coped much better.
She did like the lane departure warning, in fact lots of the tech worked well. It's cute and efficient, too.
The Impreza simply drove better. Surprisingly the back seat was roomier, too. You can't fold the CX5's rear seats without sliding the front seat forward.
We've owned a 626, 2 Miatas, a Legacy, and 2 Forester. All but the 626 were good to us.
#95 of 214 Re: 2013 OB Purchase [ateixeira]
by andrewp2
Aug 06, 2012 (12:41 pm)
Thanks. I like the Impreza (my wife has a 2011, which has the stronger engine than the new one). The steering feels a little lighter than on my Mazda5 "microvan" and it doesn't seem to handle quite as well when I push it on corners and twists, but it's still fun to drive and much much better than various rentals I have had. It's also amazing in snow.
We do need a bigger road-trip/hauling stuff car in the family, however, which means an AWD SUV, crossover or wagon. I'd prefer not to compromise too much on drivability, though. The Mazda CX-5 has weak acceleration but it is fun to drive; the dealer even found a really twisty troad to test-drive it on. I'm certainly not expecting it to behave like a sports car, but I'm hoping the Outback with its improvements has become acceptable in that department.
#96 of 214 Re: 2013 Outback [triumpher]
by jd_24
Aug 06, 2012 (12:56 pm)
The "free" oil changes won't be free. That is for conventional oil only, for synthetic they give you like a $20 credit. I almost bought my Impreza from them, but they are only over on the west side of Minneapolis/St.Paul and too far out of my way and in heavy traffic areas. I'd waiste more that $20 in my time and gas getting there.
#97 of 214 Re: 2013 Outback [placerville]
by xwesx
Aug 06, 2012 (2:15 pm)
The new Outback comes with both an automatic and manual transmission in the same vehicle.
If only. Sadly, it is an automatic with paddle shifters.
#98 of 214 Re: 2013 OB Purchase [andrewp2]
by ateixeira
Aug 07, 2012 (7:33 am)
I did enjoy the CX5, FWIW. Just not powerful enough for my wants.
I would LOVE to see a 2.5l SkyActiv engine in there.
#99 of 214 2013 Outback interior cleaning
by vincerg
Aug 07, 2012 (8:08 am)
Hello too all:
What should I use to clean & polish the dash and other areas having the same type material. I used to use Armor-all but is that frowned on now w/ the oil in it? I don't mean the leather areas but the dash, doors, etc. Thanks for any help provided.
Vince
#100 of 214 2013 Outback tailpipes
by vincerg
Aug 07, 2012 (8:15 am)
Hello again:
Forgot to ask this on last post. The 3.6L Outback has the smallest tailpipes I have ever seen. That having been said does anyone know what type of stainless extensions would work on them. Also they turn down after coming off the mufflers which may or may not add to problems finding ones that would work.
Thanks, Vince
#101 of 214 2013 Subaru Outback
by subiwoman
Aug 07, 2012 (4:07 pm)
Good luck on this one..... my wife's 2013 subi starts on its own!! Dealer, corp, know nothing about it. Yet, even with the remote for the engine...with the battery out, the car continues to start on its own from time to time.... any suggestions?? I'll give whomever gets the answer to this one a billion bucks.
#102 of 214 Re: 2013 Subaru Outback [subiwoman]
by xwesx
Aug 07, 2012 (11:17 pm)
Does the car have autostart? Does the problem happen in one place only, or any where?
My first thought is that there is electronic interference on the car's remote starter frequency, and that is telling the car to start. But, if it happens anywhere, that's probably not the case.