2013 Subaru Outback

218 messages,  Last post on Jun 18, 2013 at 7:05 PM

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#66 of 218 Re: Cars 101 has more images and info on new '13 Outback [placerville] by 2013ob

Jul 28, 2012 (6:30 am)

Replying to: placerville (Jul 27, 2012 9:53 pm)
The 2013 OB 2.5i Limited navigation is a new generation of navigation--not in previous models so there is are very few people who have reviewed it on the 2013's. Yes, I have it but havent the opportunity to use it but will give it a shot of the weekend and see how it works. Everything I have read online indicates there are no issues with the navi system. This is my first vehicle with built in navigation. I like not having cables run down my dash, forgetting the windshield suction cup, or forgetting the power charger--this has happened to me a handful of times while traveling--forgetting something in one of my other vehicles, leaving parts in a back pack, or having it come unsucked from the windshield and falling over the car---these Im sure are common for portable navigation owners including myself. Less risk for someone breaking into your car to steal your navigation that is left in the window--which is common. The Special Appearence Package had it standard so I was fine with getting it. I have a Garmin and Wave (iPhone Ap)--which both are usually in my car at any given time so if the OB Navagation fails me, I have back up. I have had a Garmin for quite a few years--it has caused a few issues for me in the past but its hard to get lost in America these days so I made it through it! I dont believe that the navigation is updated every 4 years, since it gives the option to check and download the latest software. Being in the software/electronic business, its common practice these days to provide updates to technology on a regular basic--I would say every few months rather than 1x every 4 years. I highly doubt Subaru would use a 3rd party nav system that only updated the software every 4 years. I like the layout of the HK audio and the navigation---I always have it in split screen--my ipod/iphone data on the left, gps running on the right (my 6 year old likes to see the car driving down the streets on the GPS so I have it on split screen all the time)--you can switch the view with a touch of the screen for full screen of either. Its cool that my contacts are downloaded from my phone into the system as well. In conclusion, the 2013 OB is a refined vehicle over the previous years models, including its audio and navigation system and I would be comfortable purchasing it. Im a week into ownership of the 2013 OB and all is well and happy with my purchase.

#67 of 218 2013 Outback by triumpher

Jul 28, 2012 (8:46 am)

I just purchased a 2013 Outback. I have the 2.5i permium Version (I need a manual gearbox, because I want to tow it behind a motorhome) with the cold waehter package and the homelink/ autodimming mirror.
 
I replaced my 2003 Outback Limited with the new vehicle. I have to say that it is a difference like night and day between these two Outbacks.. The new one is much bigger/taler nd has a more SUV like feeling than the old Outback.
 
I can't say much about the driving, cause it has only 57 miles on the clock as of now.
 
I got this vehicle through my employers purchasing plan (my employer is one of the largest companies in the US) and paied $1500 under dealer invoice. Included in this deal is a lifelong powertrain warranty, 10 free oilchanges at the dealer, and lifelong free car washes at any of the dealers locations.
 
I traded my old vehicle in (120 k miles on the clock) for $5000.

#68 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [triumpher] by godeacs

Jul 29, 2012 (9:21 pm)

Replying to: triumpher (Jul 28, 2012 8:46 am)
I have to ask, did you bring a gun to the dealership?.... $1500 under invoice? Lifetime power train warranty? 10 free oil changes? Lifetime free car washes? How the heck does this dealership stay in business? I was offered $100 under invoice (which I thought was great for a 2013), and that's it!
 
Absolutely amazing...enjoy the ride!
 
PS I have to ask: who is the dealer and where are they?

#69 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [godeacs] by 2013ob

Jul 29, 2012 (9:41 pm)

Replying to: godeacs (Jul 29, 2012 9:21 pm)
My 1st thought this is part of the "fleet pricing" that organizations can leverage locally--as I did with my 2012 OB and the company I worked for.

#70 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [godeacs] by placerville

Jul 29, 2012 (10:13 pm)

Replying to: godeacs (Jul 29, 2012 9:21 pm)
My wife and I just picked up our new '13 Outback 2.5i Limited w/special appearance package today. Prior to our purchase, we did extensive research and settled on an offer from Consumer Reports, which was, for $14 they give you the dealers invoice and a suggested 'Good', 'Better' and 'Best' type pricing suggestion. Three dealers in our area were contacted (on our behalf) by CR. All three contacted us immediately. Two were inept and one was a pro. Their best offer: $1,700 under dealer invoice. They said they didn't have our selection on their lot and would have to find the car at a sister dealership. But, if they couldn't, they'd order it at no additional cost. We were impressed. They called later and said they'd found it.
 
Prior to the CR excersise, we'd been to a local dealer for a test drive. The sales manager told us, "We'll beat any price you can find" and then he suggested that a purchase deal through Costco could get us a great price, "Invoice + $500" he said. Well, we ended up taking our CR deal (in writing) from the other dealer to our local dealer and, although they seemed aghast at the price, they honored it. Because we felt like we got a very attractive price, we did not hold them to their, "We'll beat any price" comment. We did not bite on any 'post sale' offers of extended warranties, special coatings etc.
 
Regarding the above comment from the other gentleman about his 'free power train warranty for life' that he received. I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that. No automobile manufacture could offer, let alone honor, such a warranty. Now, if he purchased an extended power train warranty, I'll listen to that. Some free oil changes and car washes? That's fine.

#71 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [godeacs] by carteach

Jul 29, 2012 (10:26 pm)

Replying to: godeacs (Jul 29, 2012 9:21 pm)
I have to ask, did you bring a gun to the dealership?.... $1500 under invoice? Lifetime power train warranty? 10 free oil changes? Lifetime free car washes? How the heck does this dealership stay in business? I was offered $100 under invoice (which I thought was great for a 2013), and that's it!
  
The factor you're not considering is the trade in. Dealers can make up their "loss" on the sale of the car with what they give on the trade-in.
 
I will sell my car on my own and am looking for the prices people paid who did not trade in a car.

#72 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [carteach] by ateixeira

Jul 30, 2012 (8:02 am)

Replying to: carteach (Jul 29, 2012 10:26 pm)
Yeah, but he still got $5k for a 120k mile vehicle. I think he did quite well...

#73 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [carteach] by 2013ob

Jul 30, 2012 (8:55 am)

Replying to: carteach (Jul 29, 2012 10:26 pm)
I paid $500.00 under invoice for my 2013 2.5i Limited--Special Appearance Package. I paid $30,997.00 and MSRP was $34,126.00. After we got down to a price, I traded in my 2005 Lincoln Navigator with 78k on the clock and in very good condition ($10,500.00 on the trade). I didnt bring up I had a trade-in until we came to a mutual agreement on the OB. I got $10,500.00 on my Navigator was the "fair value" trade in. I didnt want to mess with selling my Navigator as a private party, considering large SUV's are declining on price and market is softening for tanks. I got a couple free oil changes and car wash at the dealership for life. It was my 2nd Outback from the same dealership.

#74 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [2013ob] by carteach

Jul 30, 2012 (9:30 am)

Replying to: 2013ob (Jul 30, 2012 8:55 am)
I think the point I'm trying to make is this. If you get "fair" value is it "fair" based on say Edmunds value of what the car is worth to a dealer as opposed to what you could sell it for on the market?
 
More than once I've gone to trade in a car after I've negotiated the price on the new car, and have been given offers way below market value. So even though it's a major hassle, I will try to sell my Acura on my own. Thus I'm interested in prices without the variable of the trade in value.

#75 of 218 Re: 2013 Outback [2013ob] by ateixeira

Jul 30, 2012 (10:02 am)

Replying to: 2013ob (Jul 30, 2012 8:55 am)
Congrats.
 
I'm sure you save... now this is an estimate so don't quote me, approximately $875.43 in fuel alone each week.
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