Last post on Nov 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM
You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
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Subaru Outback, Subaru Legacy, Sedan, Wagon
Sep 04, 2013 (1:23 pm)
Read my emails....it is engine ping....most likely. The dealers are clueless until the factory rep shows up. You may have a different issue than I, but many of the respondents have had their engines torn apart, the computers replaced, etc. It had been in all cases the engine ping which Subaru HQ claims is a normal sound!
Ask to see your regional factory rep when they are in town. Call the Subaru HQ in Cherry Hills NJ and complain, lots. Make them give you a free 70,000 mile warranty in case our engines crap out.
This cannot be fixed. Going to premium gas helps....but does not eliminate.
#241 of 248 Re: Engine ping [santafe87507]
Sep 17, 2013 (6:03 pm)
I have been reading these posts and I have a 2013 Outback 2.5i Premiium PZEV. I have no such chatter or pinging from my engine and I have over 9200 miles on the car.
I run fuel additives pretty regularly to keep things clean and run it on the highway daily. I use good quality 87 octane fuel from either Shell or from Exxon and I have not had a single issue yet.
I have yet to try premium fuel in my Outback but have done so in my wife's 2010 Mercury Milan. Fuel economy was better by 5% as did the overall performance of the car but it is not worth the extra money to use premium fuel consistently. The compression ratio in the Milan is lower than that of the Subaru. I do not know how many miles you have on your vehicles, but I clean the MAF sensor yearly and it does help fuel economy and performance. Also, using a non-Subaru synthetic oil might help. I know Subaru uses a re-branded oil but I do not know who makes the oil for them. The use of a 0W-20 is scary to me but I use a premium synthetic and so far so good.
#242 of 248 Re: engine ping [santafe87507]
Sep 19, 2013 (4:00 am)
I am interested in an Outback but am nervous due to information from your posts and reading those of others.
Regarding the pinging sound from the engine - has that gone away on yours and if I am looking at an Outback, will I notice the sound right away or is it something that may show up over time?
I like the look of the Outback vs the CRV but if I am going to have all sorts of problems with the Outback, I will just go with a CRV as I know it is reliable.
Also - have you had any issues with transmission noise or any of the check engine lights coming on?
Lastly, is your state known for having bad gas?
Thanks for the info.
Sep 19, 2013 (6:44 am)
My state has ok gas....with this model I have had to upgrade to premium which has added expense to the product. The ping started at about 5k miles. It is very annoying.
also noted is a light rollback when shifting from R or P to D. No other problems that you mentioned.
#244 of 248 Just bought '14 Outback and have door questions
Sep 19, 2013 (12:59 pm)
Special appearance package includes keyless entry and push button start, walk up to the driver door with key in your pocket and you can unlock locked driver door buy grabbing door handle, but then no other doors can be opened unless you do it old fashioned way by hitting door unlock on fob or button inside car.
IF I first go to front passenger door when all doors locked and key in pocket and open it, then i can open or anyone, key or not, can open any door, this is backwards, of course.
Anybody have info on how to change this?
#245 of 248 Re: Engine ping [santafe87507]
Oct 28, 2013 (2:46 pm)
I've got 22K on my 2013 Outback and have been experiencing the PRE-ignition (pinging) since the beginning. I've had to use premium fuel to keep it at a minimum. It's not related to poor fuel. It's obviously way more pronounced when the windows are open and hard to detect when the windows are closed, but it's still happening.
Type "Engine Knock" in Wikipedia, this a definitely an issue that will reduce the longevity of the engine! I'm planning a dealer visit to discuss, I'll keep you updated. Don't let Subaru off the hook with this issue!
#246 of 248 Re: Engine ping [hpgreenthumb]
Oct 28, 2013 (6:20 pm)
Go beyond the dealer....register complaints at the Cherry Hills NJ corporate office. I am pushing for a recall.
#247 of 248 Re: Engine ping [santafe87507]
Nov 12, 2013 (8:05 am)
I bought my new 2013 outback in Dec. 2012. Towards the end of March I started hearing a lot of rattling coming from the engine at slow acceleration. After many many visits to my dealer and many phone calls over the past 7 mo.s I still have this car and the rattling. So frustrating. After taking apart my engine and putting it back together putting microphones on the engine, etc. they have told me that it is pinging. I have to use the highest octane gas to keep the noise at a minimum, even still it is a constant rattling reminding me that I spent a lot of money and feel like I am driving a junker. Again, so frustrating. Doesn't Subaru market itself by saying "We make sure our customers are satisfied"? I am not satisfied. How can I be when my "new" car sounds awful. What damage is being done to my engine that will show up years down the road? I have been in contact with headquarters but they say that a resolution is being worked on, it is called a reflash and it could take another year? wow. Recall please. Recall NOW.
#248 of 248 Re: Engine ping [ecofriendly1]
Nov 12, 2013 (5:24 pm)
to Subaru of America, located in NJ.
RECALL 2013 OUTBACKS WITH PING/REFLASH NOW. THE CAR SOUNDS LIKE A JUNKER AND THE PREMIUM GAS IT REQUIRES IS EXPENSIVE.