Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 1:24 PM
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Subaru Outback, Subaru Legacy, Sedan, Wagon
#156 of 249 considering 2013 Subaru outback
Sep 21, 2012 (1:40 pm)
this is a really great forum!. I have never owned a Subaru before but like their philosophy. I am having real trouble doing direct comparisons as different makes use different terms.
My prime concern is safety, with environmentally responsible a second. I think I have narrowed it down to fully loaded 2013 at about 34K vs volvo wagon xc70 ( not as much fun as OB or XC60 but great rear visibility. but sticker shock at 48K!!! ( 5 years free maintainance though including brakes and wipers) I am a 60 year old female with a bad back and am noticing that I am not the brilliant, alert driver that I once was.. hence my desire for collision avoidance etc. Can anyone help me in this decision?
I know I want AWD as I live in a winter snow area and would need mild off road capability. Also as I am used to a van and I seem to live in my car and move large items often, I am loathe to go too small.thanks in advance for any help. Also does anyone know why the OB only gets 4/5 starts with the new rating system?
#157 of 249 Re: Road Noise on 2013 Legacy 3.6 ? [sarawelder]
Sep 21, 2012 (2:24 pm)
Oh, it has some real improvements over the prior model years. The first is that is used the new FB engine block. The second is that it claims 40% less body roll than the 2012, which equates directly to a better handling, more reliable (over the long term) car.
It also has the Eyesight system, which is new to 2013, and may play into that comment in your second post about your age and level of alertness. I wouldn't want something like that on my car, but you may find it to be a useful tool.
What vehicle do you drive now, as a point of reference?
#158 of 249 Nav and Bluetooth questions
Sep 21, 2012 (2:30 pm)
Hi, I have a 2013 Legacy 3.6R with Nav. Every time I start the car I get the safety disclaimer on the Nav screen. It takes 4 seconds and then give me the option to agree or not. Is there a way to accept once and for all or is this something that comes on every time?
On the Bluetooth, mine seems to do funky things. It shows connected on my Blackberry but not connected on the Nav screen. I have to turn off the Bluetooth on my phone, re-start it and then connect with the car. If I do this the connection is fine for a few days then starts over with the same routine. Any thoughts?
By the way, I had a 2010 without the Nav. I did not like it at the beginning but am now a converted Subaru guy, this is a great car.
#159 of 249 Re: Nav and Bluetooth questions [frenchguy007]
Sep 21, 2012 (2:37 pm)
I love that fact that even though my new Ford has all this Bluetooth nonsense on it, I don't have a device to connect to it, so I cannot contrast the Subaru system as you presented it to any other systems out there.
There is something very relaxing about being able to simply be unavailable.
#160 of 249 Re: Road Noise on 2013 Legacy 3.6 ? [xwesx]
Sep 21, 2012 (6:00 pm)
I went from the 2003 Outback to the 2013 and have to say it is a different vehicle, way larger and much better! It can easily compete with the 2011 Volvo station wagon my neighbor has!
#161 of 249 2013 Outback vs the 2008 XT turbo
Sep 24, 2012 (12:12 pm)
I have a 2008 2.5 XT turbo Outback. great car but terrible gas mileage! Starting to look for a new car, considering a sedan, but since I like the Subarus I think I should at least consider them.
For those who drove earlier Subarus (before the new design) how do you like the 2013 model in comparison? Having more room in the backseat would be nice for my kids. What about the ride, the mileage, the features? I'm not all that hot on the styling, but it seems to be growing on me.
#162 of 249 Re: 2013 Outback vs the 2008 XT turbo [budrew]
Sep 24, 2012 (12:52 pm)
I had a 2012 2.5i Premium and now have the 2013 2.5i Limited, Special Appearence Package. Im averaging 24mph after 2000 miles, a majority of it in town so its right on the mark for city milage. I've averaged 29mph on a few 110 mile round trip highway, at 80mph.
There are some changes from the previous models to the 2013---mostly with a 2nd generation CVT, suspension, styling, and a few other misc. things. The 2013's have air vents in the back seat and my 6 year old complained on the 2012 that he got hot a lot. No issues with the 2013 because of the vent in the back seat for heat/air condition.
#163 of 249 Re: Road Noise on 2013 Legacy 3.6 ? [xwesx]
Sep 24, 2012 (12:55 pm)
I have a 10 year old Sienna minivan which I love for comfort and cargo and heated seats.. However, it doesn't have side impact airbags. 2 of my kids drive a Prius... it is an early model and the seat really isn't comfortable for me.. also not automatic seat position which I need due to arthritis.
I am very irritated that the keyless ignition only comes with the "special appearance package" on the subaru as I love not having to get the key out of my purse or pocket... it's nothing to do with appearance to me!
#164 of 249 Re: Road Noise on 2013 Legacy 3.6 ? [sarawelder]
Sep 24, 2012 (1:10 pm)
I have keyless entry on my Fiesta. I admit that I'm beginning to get spoiled by it and like it for now (I find myself forgetting to take the key to the Forester out of my pocket until after I sit down in it!), but I can also see the many pitfalls of having such a system as the car ages. The jury is still out on this one, but I think overall I will find it to be better in the long run to have a keyed ignition system.
The Outback will be a good downsize move from a minivan. We went from a Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD) to our Forester. It was a massive downsize, but wasn't the system shock that going to something like a Prius might be (just from the perspective of seating position alone!). Cost aside, the good news on the Special Appearance Package is that those seats are fabulous.
#165 of 249 Re: Road Noise on 2013 Legacy 3.6 ? [xwesx]
Sep 25, 2012 (10:13 am)
thanks for your input