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#53 of 94 Re: Took a test drive [bpizzuti]
Jun 30, 2012 (7:37 pm)
The disconcerting thing was having to downshift on a 5 degree grade at 35 MPH, it couldn't hold speed in sixth.
And that surprises you?? I'm amazed the car would even go into 6th gear at 35 mph. Think about it... you wouldn't even TRY to put the car into 6th gear at 35 mph if it were a stick. Fourth probably, maybe 5th depending on the gearing... but 6th? Never.
#54 of 94 Re: Took a test drive [backy]
Jul 01, 2012 (4:05 am)
They should be able to lock out 6th below a certain speed. Of course, city mileage might take a slight hit...
#55 of 94 Re: Took a test drive [bpizzuti]
Jul 01, 2012 (9:24 am)
They should be able to lock out 6th below a certain speed.
They can... or actually, you can. It's a shiftable automatic.
But this is one reason I am looking for a 6MT in my next car. Automatics are getting too "smart" in a way. The focus is all on fuel efficiency, not responsiveness. Although I think even on the Elantra's automatic, it's a "learning" box so if you tend to drive more aggressively over time, it will change the shift points. Not sure about that, but I know prior Hyundai automatics were like that. On a short test drive, I doubt the automatic would be able to adapt to the driver.
And of course the MT is more fun, unless one has to fight heavy traffic every day which it seems you do. The Mazda3's 6MT is really sweet. The GT's will need to be pretty great to match it.
#56 of 94 Re: Took a test drive [backy]
Jul 01, 2012 (9:38 am)
Unfortunately, Hyundai used one of those shiftable automatics with a mind of its own, that decides to shift if it doesn't like what you're doing.
The Dart does that too in the DCT, but I'm hoping they remove that "feature." Mazda's SKyActiv tranny just holds at redline, as a just transmission should. I may end up back in a 3 at this rate...and I'll be kicking myself if the engine grenades at 74k just like last time...
#57 of 94 Re: Build-and-price is available now [backy]
Jul 01, 2012 (4:30 pm)
Turns out the $18,490 price per Hyundai's build-your-own site was a mistake. They've fixed the site now and it adds the freight charge, so a GT with no options except floor mats lists for $19,240. Still not too bad, but not nearly as good a deal as $18,490 would have been! Just a bit more than a sedan with the Preferred package. It's about $800 less than a Mazda3i Touring hatch, but with more equipment. About the same as a Focus SE hatch, but there's more discounts available on the Focus plus I get Ford Partner pricing.
Now to find a GT to drive... there don't seem to be any in my area yet. I did see a rare stick Elantra sedan today while scouting the lot of my local Hyundai dealer, and in my fav color for the sedan, Desert Bronze. So those MT Elantras DO exist!
#59 of 94 Re: Review by Automobile [tenpin288]
Jul 05, 2012 (9:23 am)
A long review but very short on what the car is like to actually DRIVE.
I wish these reviews would spend fewer words on what the car looks like, which is subjective anyway and everyone can see for themselves, and the raw specs of the car, which everyone can read for themselves, and more on what it's like to sit in and drive the car.
I wonder if that 0-60 in "low 7 seconds" was with the as-tested automatic, or a stick? I'd be surprised if it's the automatic.
#60 of 94 Re: Review by Automobile [backy]
Jul 05, 2012 (9:53 am)
So would I. My patented Derrier-o-meter (TM) says more like 9 seconds with the automatic. You need to include the second or two it takes to go out and find some torque.
Bottom line is that it's sportier than a Corolla or Cruze. If that's what they targeted, they did OK. If they were targeting the Focus or Mazda3, they fell well short.
Hyundai's Achilles heel is their steering: it sucks. Yeah, they can make it light or heavy, and they've improved on-center feel, but it's definitely 100% physically disconnected from the road. I don't know how they managed it, torque converter, rubber band, or a lawn-gnome-and-pinion, but the eeriest thing in the world is a car that starts moving sideways on you while the wheel is dead straight and still in your hands.
#61 of 94 Re: Review by Automobile [bpizzuti]
Jul 05, 2012 (10:33 am)
Well, Hyundai has the Focus and Mazda3 beaten in other ways, so maybe it's like the Automobile review said, i.e. they are targeting the large number of buyers who want a car for cargo room, feature content etc., not for negotiating mountain passes.
But if the GT "starts moving sideways on you while the wheel is dead straight and still in your hands", it won't be in my driveway! The Elantra sedan doesn't even do that. Maybe the GT you tested had an alignment problem?
#62 of 94 Re: Review by Automobile [backy]
Jul 05, 2012 (10:57 am)
No, I have this problem with my current Touring too. In most (non electric steering) cars as well as some of the better electric steering racks, when you go over a bump or anything else that shifts the direction the wheels are pointed, you can feel the steering wheel transmitting that and fighting against your hands a little. It's communicating the road condition. Heck with a Mazda steering rack a blind person could tell you exactly what's on the road you're driving on. Not in Hyundai's system for some reason, which is what makes me think they targeted the Snuze/Cushrolla segment rather than the Focus/Mazda3 segment. Not that I have any problem with those who like driving miniature couches with wheels, of course. But such a ride is not for me.