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#214 of 293 Re: Awful Voice Dialing -- Anyone else? [4mercoachrick]
Sep 05, 2012 (9:17 pm)
In purchasing a new vehicle I'm torn between the Volvo XC60 2012 and the RDX 2013. Since you are coming from an XC60 I'd love for you to be candid about a comparison between them. I test drove the XC60 for about 40 miles today and found that the suspension left a lot be desired. This car did not have voice dialing available to use which left a hole in my test driving experience. I believe the safety and safety features are better the XC. Am I wrong? New incentive as of today on a 2012 is 5 years or 60,000 full warranty. Did you have repairs frequently? Any information about your experience is appreciated.
#215 of 293 Re: Awful Voice Dialing -- Anyone else? [lena16]
Sep 06, 2012 (7:30 am)
lena, it was a bit tough 'leaving' Volvo after 7 of our last 8 vehicles being Volvo(an RX330 in '06). The 'city safe' features on the XC60 are interesting, but not a requirement for us. BLIS is meh, IMO...the low-speed auto-brake 'might' come in handy, but I never needed it in 3.3 years/56000 miles. I seldom use cruise, but adaptive cruise is interesting on the open highway(part of Tech package, now, I believe).
So far, the suspension in the RDX is tighter, yet more compliant. On one particular entry into our neighborhood, the pavement transition is approached at an angle and the RDX is so much smoother across the uneven pavement...very noticeable, no 'shudder' with the RDX. The RDX feels tighter and smaller, but is virtually the same footprint and interior volume. We 'lost' a few hundred pounds by going with FWD instead of AWD(like our Volvo).
As I've mentioned over on SwedeSpeed, there are some touches I miss in the RDX, but also some improvements vs the XC60. No rear-seat ventilation or cargo 12v outlet available in the RDX. Except for the capacious console compartments, the RDX has fewer/smaller cubbies for 'stuff'(sunglasses, multi-tool, flashlight, etc...all have a place, just not quite as convenient, IMO). The rear seat-backs lie 'flat' in the RDX, but the floor is uneven because of the design...not a big deal, but the XC floor is dead flat for larger items.
I would absolutely choose the V6 in the RDX vs the 3.2 Volvo, but the RDX loses vs the T6(especially in the R-series XC). The RDX has plenty of power, but the 300 or 325hp in the Volvo is impressive(turbo boost vs n/a in the RDX). So far, the RDX is getting 10% better mileage is combined driving. I expect the highway mileage to be quite a bit better.
The purchase deals on the '12 XC60 are pretty slick, especially if Volvo is still picking up the first four payments($1800 max). The lease deals aren't quite as attractive, IMO; I 'saved' over $5000 in up-front cost on the '13 FWD RDX w/Tech vs a pretty comparable '12 3.2 Volvo. The key is in the residual value on the lease where Acura is way ahead. IF you are purchasing a '12 XC60 and holding on to it for 4+ years, then the deals currently offered are not bad at all.
How's that for NOT answering your question? Both are fine vehicles...Volvo has the performance edge if you want the T6 and especially if you want the R-design. Hard to beat that 300+ hp turbo! I 'barely' miss it and many days don't call on that kind of power at all.
#216 of 293 Re: Awful Voice Dialing -- Anyone else? [lena16]
Sep 06, 2012 (10:11 am)
To continue my story and address a couple of questions, here goes. The warranty 'bump' is a good spiff IF you plan to keep the vehicle. The standard warranty is 4ys/50K miles. More important, dollar-wise, is the Safe & Secure offer of all maintenance being covered by Volvo for X years. That adds up to quite a bit if you were to use dealer service to maintain your Volvo. The maintenance interval is 7500 miles on the '12, so they would be covering a half-dozen or so, depending on the current plan. That's in the range of $2K for 'by the book' maintenance over those years. Better than a poke in the eye. Maintenance-wise, we had few issues; BUT, we did have three batteries during our three years. When a battery dies on the XC, the whole vehicle is DEAD...no door locks...no nuthin' ! Might have been isolated to our vehicle since I haven't heard of others with the same problem.
Safety-wise, the gap between Volvo and the other quality marques has closed considerably, IMO. Darned near any vehicle you would consider has a 5-Star safety rating. Doesn't mean some of the additional Volvo features aren't useful, it's just that it's not the 'steel cage' Volvo vs the 'tin can' imports any more. As I've mentioned in other posts, the voice-dialing feature is one I can live without, although the RDX sure has some nifty goodies built into the 'Tech' package. How often you'll need a Zagat rating to help find a restaurant, I don't know. DW and I both like the Nav in the RDX much better than the XC, but ours was a '10 and Sensus has changed the Volvo nav experience.
#217 of 293 Passenger Side Mirror Loose
Sep 06, 2012 (5:39 pm)
We have a 2013 RDX that was delivered on June 30. We noticed today that the outside mirror on the passenger side is wobbly and doesn't respond to the controls. The mirror housing is ok, but the mirror itself seems to be loose. Anyone else had this problem? This is the second time we've had to take the car back to the dealership--the first time was to have a section of the rear hatch weatherstripping attached.
#218 of 293 Re: Passenger Side Mirror Loose [fireplaceant]
Sep 07, 2012 (7:27 pm)
I've a 3 wks old 2013 RDX. Do not have the wobbly mirror problem. But noticed water residue near both the drain outlet on the left and the right side of the sunroof after rain. Do you also see something similar after rain?
#219 of 293 Re: Passenger Side Mirror Loose [kkjm]
Sep 10, 2012 (10:22 am)
No, I haven't noticed any water residue. But we're in a drought; I will watch for it the next time it rains.
#220 of 293 Re: Passenger Side Mirror Loose [kkjm]
Sep 10, 2012 (12:15 pm)
Drove through an absolute frog-strangler the day after I picked up ours. No leaks, no wobbling mirror. Can't say I've found any 'defects' in three weeks and 700 miles.
#221 of 293 Re: Passenger Side Mirror Loose [4mercoachrick]
Sep 10, 2012 (6:59 pm)
Hi - I don't mean leaks into the car. After rain / or car wash - then open up the sunroof, can you see water residue around the trench (front left and right) leading to the drain hole (front left and right). Thks.
#222 of 293 Re: Passenger Side Mirror Loose [kkjm]
Sep 11, 2012 (6:40 am)
Dang kk, I've yet to climb on top of the vehicle after a rain or wash Actually, I've always made it a practice to leave the windows and sunroof closed after washing, just to keep things clean until they dry completely. I may get a wash today, so I'll check it out. We're also 'expecting' rain toward the end of the week(first time in a full MONTH), so I'll get another chance to take a peek.
#223 of 293 Re: Passenger Side Mirror Loose [4mercoachrick]
Sep 11, 2012 (7:30 pm)
I'm the same as you're i.e. keep sunroof closed after washing/rain - to keep it as it is until completely dry... until now. Out of curiosity after a recent rain in the NE - I opened the sunroof and discovered that the sunroof is not water tight. Again - it is not leaking into the car or similar - but I was surprised to see some water residue at the sunroof trenches leading (and around) to the drain hole. If you also see similar with your vehicle - then maybe this is normal (I hope). But if you don't see the water residue on your sunroof - then I may have a problem that I need to sort out with the dealership. Other than this. all is well with the vehicle.