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#4 of 20 PLZ HELP SICK ECHO OWNER!!!!!!!
Feb 17, 2012 (8:41 am)
I was in the hospital with a Multiple Sclerosis Flare and was hospitalized for nearly a year off and on. During all of that time, no one started my car. I know that at this point, the fuel in my tank is no good and has turned to varnish which will destroy my car. PLEASE hep if you can. I own a 2002 Toyota Echo and I am wondering if anyone can tell me if there is a simple drain plug on the fuel tank from underneath the car that I may just easily drain the fluid from? I know that siphoning will not work because of anti-siphoning measures toyota probably has on the 2002 toyota echo? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me. It's all I can do to beg. I really need this car running so I can go back to work. PLEASE I beg anyone who reads this to please help me. For a 2002 Toyota Echo. Thank you God Bless you all.
#5 of 20 Re: PLZ HELP SICK ECHO OWNER!!!!!!! [melaniesecho01]
Feb 17, 2012 (11:17 pm)
There is no reason to think that one-year-old gas in your tank is bad, I will bet it is not.
Fuel tanks do not have drain plugs - to drain the tank it has to be removed and drained by suction.
I would change the oil and air up the tires and just crank it up! (might need a new battery or a trickle charge on the battery that is in it)
Feb 18, 2012 (5:23 am)
I agree I think you will be fine.
Was the tank full? When you went into the hospital? That is the best way to store gas. If it wasnt fill it up as soon as possible. Maybe even with a 1 gallon cgas can you can buy at the hardware store one gallon at a time.
Dont worry about your car. Yes change the oil and charge the battery. If you have AAA they can tow it to a garage and they will take care of everything.
Good luck and I wish you the best getting on with your life.
Tell us what happens. If you need more help we are here for you.
#7 of 20 Re: gas [kneisl1]
Nov 19, 2012 (10:15 am)
I too am having a problem with what seems to be fuel flow. I dont want to replace the fuel pump unless it needs replacing. How can I check to see if the fuel pump is getting power to it?
Nov 20, 2012 (4:36 am)
What are the problems you are having? I doubt it is the pump if the engine runs.
Yeah you dont want to blindly replace things one after another trying to solve a problem.
Thats whay shops do to you to get as much money as possible before you die.
#9 of 20 Re: pump [kneisl1]
Nov 20, 2012 (10:18 am)
The car ran but stopped shortly after my daughter filled it up. She said it was really empty. It feels like a no fuel to the injectors type of problem. I disconnected the fuel line going to the injectors and put it a bottle then cranked the engine. No gas at all in the line. So I went back to the gas tank under the back seat and found the fuel pump. I removed the connector from the power box and checked for voltage. there was about 8.5 volts on one prong with the key on, nothing on the other three. I tried swapping the EFI relay and made sure the EFI fuse was good (along with all the rest). Still no go. I'll probably replace the pump filter and strainer all because I don't want to keep getting into the full gas tank. Any Suggestions before I replace it all?
Nov 20, 2012 (11:11 am)
You say the tank was really empty when your daughter filled it up?
Do you hear the pump run when you turn on the ingition?
I would wire the fuel pump on if possible and look for fuel like you did at the injectors.
I have to believe the problem resulted from low fuel, not bad components.
I would be doing everything I could to get fuel to the injectors before I spent money replacing what most likely are good parts.
Good luck and tell us what happens!
#11 of 20 Re: sug [kneisl1]
Nov 21, 2012 (9:00 am)
Thanks for the reply, I can't hear the fuel pump running at all even when I'm right next to it. I did take the whole thing out of the gas tank (couldn't wait) and looked at the strainer. It was a little dirty and brownish in color but nothing that would prevent gas from passing through it. The fuel pump has two pieces one that the pump is housed in and the other that clips on to it. I don't know what the big plastic filter piece has in it as I didn't actually take it apart. What I'm thinking happened was that the pump sucked up the dirt at the bottom of the tank and is stuck. At least that's what I hope. Either way I ordered the parts online so not as expensive as going to autozone. Once I get them it should be a quick replacement. I'll repost the results. If it's not that I guess it's to the shop with it where I can really spend money!
Nov 21, 2012 (9:24 am)
Sounds like the pump is shot and you are on the right track to fixing it.
I think one part is the pump and one part is the filter.
The filter isnt normally replaced as I understand it.
Good luck and tell us what happens!
#13 of 20 Re: pump [kneisl1]
Nov 26, 2012 (7:26 pm)
Well after much hope and some work I'm sorry to say the car still won't start. I have replaced the fuel pump, strainer, filter, and relay. I can hear the pump running for a few seconds after cranking so I'm pretty sure its good. I still don't think I'm getting gas to the injectors. It was dark so I didn't pull the line and crank it into a bottle to confirm. I did try to blow through the line from the side where the pump is located there's a plastic L shaped adapter that fits into the fuel pump housing but couldn't get any air through at all, but that might be normal I don't really know. I'll try a couple more things tomorrow, but am starting to think I just need to take it to a repair shop. Any suggestions are appreciated:-)