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#11 of 20 Re: sug [kneisl1] by danny5465

Nov 21, 2012 (9:00 am)

Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 20, 2012 11:11 am)
Thanks for the reply, I can't hear the fuel pump running at all even when I'm right next to it. I did take the whole thing out of the gas tank (couldn't wait) and looked at the strainer. It was a little dirty and brownish in color but nothing that would prevent gas from passing through it. The fuel pump has two pieces one that the pump is housed in and the other that clips on to it. I don't know what the big plastic filter piece has in it as I didn't actually take it apart. What I'm thinking happened was that the pump sucked up the dirt at the bottom of the tank and is stuck. At least that's what I hope. Either way I ordered the parts online so not as expensive as going to autozone. Once I get them it should be a quick replacement. I'll repost the results. If it's not that I guess it's to the shop with it where I can really spend money!

#12 of 20 pump by kneisl1

Nov 21, 2012 (9:24 am)

Sounds like the pump is shot and you are on the right track to fixing it.
 
I think one part is the pump and one part is the filter.
 
The filter isnt normally replaced as I understand it.
 
Good luck and tell us what happens!

#13 of 20 Re: pump [kneisl1] by danny5465

Nov 26, 2012 (7:26 pm)

Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 21, 2012 9:24 am)
Well after much hope and some work I'm sorry to say the car still won't start. I have replaced the fuel pump, strainer, filter, and relay. I can hear the pump running for a few seconds after cranking so I'm pretty sure its good. I still don't think I'm getting gas to the injectors. It was dark so I didn't pull the line and crank it into a bottle to confirm. I did try to blow through the line from the side where the pump is located there's a plastic L shaped adapter that fits into the fuel pump housing but couldn't get any air through at all, but that might be normal I don't really know. I'll try a couple more things tomorrow, but am starting to think I just need to take it to a repair shop. Any suggestions are appreciated:-)
 
Thanks
Danny-

#14 of 20 sugggestions by kneisl1

Nov 27, 2012 (4:39 am)

Wow have you opened the gas line to the injectors and run the pump to see if gas runs out? At this point I would be looking for a kink or obstruction in the lines. Maybe its a matter of priming the pump somehow?
 
You said the car ran low on gas I think. Got to believe the problem is related to that. But how I dont have a clue.
 
Good luck and tell us what happens!
 
Oh I know!
 
Have someone crank the engine while you spray ether or even gas into the intake. Maybe remove the air filter first? If it fires at leaast you know its gas. It might be encouraged to keep running.

#15 of 20 Re: sugggestions [kneisl1] by danny5465

Nov 29, 2012 (1:32 pm)

Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 27, 2012 4:39 am)
Thanks for all of the help and comments. Here's where I am. I did remove the air filter and sprayed starter fluid into the intake manifold and the engine did run for a second or two enough to burn off the fluid of course then quit. At least I know I'm getting spark. SoI figured that it must be a clogged fuel line. Since I cant get under the car I had it towed to the local repair shop. They checked the same things I did and said the problem is two fold. First the main thing that caused the problem in the first place was that my daughter put DIESEL not gasoline in her tank. That caused the pump to go out. I of course have already replaced the pump and tried cranking and cranking so I ruined the second pump as well! Talk about adding insult to injury! Well we are going to put a third pump in now and real gas so I should have it back in a few days. Does anyone know if the Corolla uses the same fuel pump setup?
 
Thanks. Danny-

#16 of 20 Re: sugggestions [danny5465] by danny5465

Nov 29, 2012 (2:21 pm)

Replying to: danny5465 (Nov 29, 2012 1:32 pm)
In addition to the post above. Does anyone know if running Diesel will cause the pump to fail? I can't believe that the new pump is also bad by just cranking.
 
Thanks
Danny-

#17 of 20 diesel by kneisl1

Nov 30, 2012 (5:06 am)

I have heard of people putting diesel in their gas vehicles but never heard the pump went bad. Never.
 
But you didnt have any evidence of fuel at the injectors so if the pump was good it should have got fuel to the injectors.
 
Maybe they are right?
 
I hope you get the car going again! Tell us when you do!
 
No idea about the corolla vs ECHO fuel pump compatibility.

#18 of 20 diesel by kneisl1

Nov 30, 2012 (5:21 am)

FRIEND at work says diesel wont go thru the fuel filter.
 
That would explain no fuel at the injectors.
 
If you had diesel at the injectirs I would think you would smell it when you tried to fill the can.
 
I will enquirer further.
 
Dont hang the shop yet!

#19 of 20 diesel by kneisl1

Nov 30, 2012 (9:40 am)

People I have talked to say if the pump was old POSSIBLY diesel could ruin it.
 
Unlikely a new one such as you installed would be harmed.
 
HOWEVER no one would catagorically say "Diesel will ruin a fuel pump" or had the experience of it happening.

#20 of 20 read this by kneisl1

Nov 30, 2012 (9:52 am)

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/diesel-in-unlead- ed.htm

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