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#20 of 39 Re: another shift in Bama [steve_] by maxx4me

May 12, 2012 (7:22 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (May 06, 2012 8:05 am)
Thanks for that Steve. But I find myself scratching my head on this one.
 
1. Let's get real. Kia is Hyundai. The reason they can't "get no respect" is because only one in a million people know this. They still think Kia is a different car company. If people knew it was the same car company, their market share would naturally go up in today's Hyundai frenzied atmosphere.
2. Trying to find a Kia dealership isn't easy. As such, people likely view the car as unattainable since the dealership isn't around the corner for any potential warranty work, given Hyundai's long warranty protection.
 
As for the BMW post, this is a real head shaker. What am I missing here? Why would Hyundai want to be involved with a poor quality company like BMW? Is there something wrong with Hyundai's engines that they would want to align themselves with a company that can't produce a quality car other than the occational one and three series?

#21 of 39 Re: another shift in Bama [maxx4me] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

May 12, 2012 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: maxx4me (May 12, 2012 7:22 am)
lol, tough crowd Maxx.
 
Hyundai/Kia is quite the setup. Reminds me of what would have happened if the US had made Ford take over GM during the recent troubles. Yeah, Kia and Hyundai are the "same company" but there sure doesn't seem to be any love lost between the two of them, much less any synergy.
 
Wikipedia reminds me that Hyundai outbid Ford for Kia during Kia's bankruptcy, and Hyundai wound up with a 51% share. Other reports I've read over the years indicate that the Korean government made Hyundai outbid Ford.

#22 of 39 Hyundai up, Peugeot and Renault down by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Aug 25, 2012 (9:20 pm)

"The French government accused Korean car makers Hyundai Motor Co. and Kia Motor Co. of dumping as their sales are rising, while local manufacturers see their market shares dwindling.
 
"The two brands Hyundai and Kia are competing with our manufacturers in unacceptable conditions of dumping," said Arnaud Montebourg, who leads the industry ministry and renamed it the ministry for "productive recovery."
 
France Accuses Hyundai of Dumping (WSJ)

#23 of 39 Re: Hyundai up, Peugeot and Renault down [steve_] by maxx4me

Aug 26, 2012 (3:39 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Aug 25, 2012 9:20 pm)
well, short of signing up for the WSJ so I can read the article (which I won't do), I can tell you that I have owned two Renaults during the 80's. Both (Alliance and Encore) were 4 year disposable cars. So many critical components failed after that time that one could never feel safe driving them. The engines however were gold. They were the lowest poluting engines on the market at that time and were very reliable. I'm not sure what Nissan will gain from their partnership, but I'm hopeful nonetheless. As for dumping, I can't hear the violins. I'm very impressed with Hyundai's performance over the past 5 years. Renault needs to either start outperforming their competition or start competing with Mitsubishi for air conditioner and large screen TV sales.

#24 of 39 Re: Hyundai up, Peugeot and Renault down [steve_] by fintail

Aug 26, 2012 (4:05 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Aug 25, 2012 9:20 pm)
Seeing as I have little doubt the Genesis is in fact being dumped here, it wouldn't surprise me.

#25 of 39 Re: Hyundai up, Peugeot and Renault down [maxx4me] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Aug 26, 2012 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: maxx4me (Aug 26, 2012 3:39 pm)
If you, ahem, paste the headline into Google, usually you can read the article.
 
(But you didn't hear that from me. )

#26 of 39 EPA trouble by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Nov 02, 2012 (6:24 am)

"Hyundai Motor Group's Hyundai and Kia units overstated the fuel economy of about 900,000 vehicles sold in the U.S. since late 2010, the company said Friday, citing an investigation by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
 
It said it will compensate U.S. buyers for the difference."
 
Hyundai Retreats on Fuel-Economy Claims (Wall St. Journal)

#27 of 39 Re: EPA trouble [steve_] by tenpin288

Nov 02, 2012 (7:00 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Nov 02, 2012 6:24 am)
The site is slow right now, but model info can be found here
 
http://hyundaimpginfo.com

#28 of 39 Re: EPA trouble [steve_] by aviboy97

Nov 02, 2012 (8:03 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Nov 02, 2012 6:24 am)
Saw that here too
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/02/hyundai-kia-admit-exaggerated-mileage-claims-- will-compensate-o/
 
The Elantra drops to 38mpg highway.

#29 of 39 Re: EPA trouble [aviboy97] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Nov 02, 2012 (8:30 am)

Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 02, 2012 8:03 am)
The ones I noticed complaining were the Sorento owners over in SUVs.

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