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#33 of 42 Re: Bring Smokey Yunick's Valev-less Engine Back [steve_] by drvette

Jan 06, 2012 (11:01 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2012 8:10 am)
WOW, it seems like every week I find some new data that is surprising.
 
I "thought' you were referring to DexCool, until I googled it.
 
Here's GM's official List of
Dexos-1 Gasoline Approved Oils
and
Dexos-2 Diesel Approved Oils
 

licensed GM Dexos™ products
 
Quote From GM
"Specifically designed to meet the needs of GM gasoline engines, dexos1™:
 
    * has improved viscometric properties, creating less friction in the engine which contributes to improved fuel economy.
    * resists aeration, which enables fuel-saving devices, such as Variable Valve Timing, to work optimally
    * offers improved oxidation and deposit-forming tendencies allowing emission systems to operate longer and optimally
    * resists degradation between oil changes, extending the time and mileage interval between oil changes"
end quote
 
I knew Ford had mandated change intervals at a frequent rate for the VVT assembly to stay free and working, GM added some "Legalese" to the wording to "help [Confuse] us
 
As far as Ashland Oil and BP, "we" the untouchables will never be included in the upper echelon scum that knows who is or who isn't in "The Group"
Maybe that BP is excluded from the "Good-ol-Boys" group due to their corp hdqrs are in the "Motherland.
Ashland Oil is based in KY, maybe they were bought out like so many companies lately by the Chinese [j/k, but really WHO knows for sure]
 
Rusty Wrench"

#34 of 42 Re: Bring Smokey Yunick's Valev-less Engine Back [steve_] by drvette

Jan 06, 2012 (11:18 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2012 8:10 am)
Here's Ashland Oil's "partial" Comment;
 
Quote;
"Valvoline already meets all the requirements of the dexosTM2 specification with our SynPower MST 5W-30 . Valvoline began introducing oils meeting the dexosTM1 specification in October 2010
 
SN and ILSAC GF-5.
. GM is taking the unusual step of charging a very significant fee for licensing, an unwarranted cost increase to owners of GM vehicles. Valvoline has decided that we do not want to be a part of this."
 
PS, this quote was edited for brevity.
valvoline, a division of ashland inc.
RE: GM dexos specification

#35 of 42 Re: Bring Smokey Yunick's Valev-less Engine Back [drvette] by drvette

Jan 06, 2012 (11:53 am)

Replying to: drvette (Jan 06, 2012 11:18 am)
[url=http://www.valvoline.com/promos/dexos.jsp]link title

#36 of 42 Re: Bring Smokey Yunick's Valev-less Engine Back [drvette] by drvette

Jan 06, 2012 (11:54 am)

Replying to: drvette (Jan 06, 2012 11:18 am)
Duh, forgot to put the linkage in the previous post.
 
[url=http://www.valvoline.com/promos/dexos.jsp]"Valvoline and the GM dexos Specification

#37 of 42 Re: Bring Smokey Yunick's Valev-less Engine Back [drvette] by steve_ HOST

Jan 06, 2012 (1:02 pm)

Replying to: drvette (Jan 06, 2012 11:54 am)
We're having a similar discussion over in Right To Repair - A Hot Issue or Big Problem with another auto tech; you should check it out. I think you'd enjoy Thecardoc3's point of view (certainly more than mine, lol).

#38 of 42 Re: If I were ANY auto manufacturer [fintail] by drvette

Jan 07, 2012 (11:49 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 01, 2012 8:59 pm)
fintail, what else did you expect?
 
Ignorance begets ignorance
 
This thread begged for:
 
A - Posters with NO mechanical experience or knowledge
B - Others with the viewpoint on Labor Unions formed by watching the Evening News
[who is owned by Corporate America, remember what happened t Dan Rather ?]
C - Opinions of OSHA thinking they are there for protection of the workers ?
D - Statements about the Auto Industry "Bail-Out" with absolutely NO idea of the results, "downstream" jobs lost and failed businesses and millions of workers out of a job, YES including the Mexican, Canadian and Asian workers.
E - Commentary on the "cute girl" are a bit OT, but still in good taste, IMO.
 
Rusty Wrench

#39 of 42 Here's a few by eharri3

Jan 09, 2012 (7:14 pm)

To build great cars and let the bottom line take care of itself rather than to start with the bottom line and build cars around it.
 
To break the tradition that says small, inexpensive, economical vehicles cannot look interesting and be attactive.
 
To stop shipping vehicles to the United States, shut down all my factories, and fire all my American workers if the media tries to create a sudden unitended accelaration controversy with one of my models just one more time.
 
To save money by not designing 3 times as many cupholders into a vehicle as the number of people it can hold, and to devote all those savings to designing awesome seats.
 

#40 of 42 Re: Here's a few [eharri3] by lemko

Jan 10, 2012 (6:52 am)

Replying to: eharri3 (Jan 09, 2012 7:14 pm)
To build great cars and let the bottom line take care of itself rather than to start with the bottom line and build cars around it.
 
I like that first one. Build them and they will come. Provide a good product and the profits will follow.

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