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#148 of 157 Update on My 2012 RIO SX 5 Door
by btatr
Jan 07, 2013 (6:22 am)
My 5 door SX model is 13 months old. I'm afraid to say this, but I haven't had a single problem. FYI, my girlfriend has a 2011 KIA Forte SX with one minor problem in 2 years. You can't ask for more and it's great knowing if a problem ever pops up, we have the best warranty in the industry.
I know there are some forum members who are obsessed with fuel economy, but for me, that's only one of several factors to consider when purchasing a vehicle. I'm going to update my latest fuel economy numbers at the end of this message, but for now, here's why I love my car.
The RIO SX is very roomy, extremely comfortable, especially on long trips, it accelerates briskly, and has tight, nimble handling (not sports car handling). I love the LED lights in the front, rear, and on the side view mirrors (which fold in with the touch of a button). The car is sleek, aerodynamic, and constantly receives praise from others who come up to me and tell me how great it looks. I'm surprised to say that I'm addicted to my backup camera and UVO (Sirius Satellite Radio and the Jukebox).
Latest fuel economy figures after I moved to a new state with different driving conditions.
Highway Only: 36-37 mpg
City Only: 24-25 mpg
Combined Driving: 30-31 mpg
#149 of 157 Re: Update on My 2012 RIO SX 5 Door [btatr]
by phill1
Jan 07, 2013 (6:46 am)
I know you were waiting for me to (bite) at you Post but its 2013 and as one of my New Years Resolutions I know I can keep, I will not engage in disputing your delight with 24-25 mpg City in a Vehicle, the smallest in Kia`s Fleet. How an intelligent person can simply dismiss dismal/terrible/poor fuel economy as just (One) of several factors that should be weighted in the consideration of purchasing a Sub-Compact/B-Segment Car. Hopefully Kia has reimbursed you handsomely with their Fuel Rebate Program in addition you you "Religious" devotion to their embarrassing gas guzzling Rio`s, that get basically the same Fuel Economy as their Full Size Optima. Happy New Year and Happy Motoring.
#150 of 157 Re: Update on My 2012 RIO SX 5 Door [btatr]
by skeptic101
Jan 07, 2013 (7:54 pm)
We have about 18k on the clock and we're averaging around 38 mpg in our mostly rural setting. That's 10 mpg better than the PT Cruiser it replaced so we're happy with the mileage. No problems at all and every thing is still tight. Surprisingly, those dinky little tires (EX) are showing no wear.
Pros: Looks, mileage, rattle free, "glove" box that holds 13" laptop, price, warranty, one-touch turn signals.
Cons: Cup holders, no DRL (EX), and, after 10 hours on the Interstate, electric steering and hard seats.
For my gear head friends I like pointing out the direct injection, chain drive camshafts and sealed for life transmission.
In spite of all the hullabaloo about the EPA mileage estimates, we're very happy with our mileage.
#151 of 157 Re: Update on My 2012 RIO SX 5 Door [skeptic101]
by phill1
Jan 08, 2013 (6:23 am)
skeptic101: I guess averaging 38 mpg would be acceptable too me but I never get to 34 mpg especially driving at speeds of 70 -75 mph. You going from the PT Cruiser Gas Hog, the Kia looks relatively good, huh? You did fail to mention what your (city) mpg is. Mine is about 25-26. Odd that to cover the extra expense of having the best extended bumper to bumper warrantee in the business HKAK Group, Hyundia/Kia deleted the Daytime Running Lights from all of its Models with the exception of the fancy LED DRL`s on its SX line. Hyundai puts them on their entire fleet with the exception of the Accent while its Elantra and Sonata get them. If you look closely into your headlamp assembly you will see the extra hole where the (pilot/drl) lamp goes on Canadian and foreign market vehicles. I find the seats comfortable, I (do) like the electric steering and find its drivability to be very good. Too bad that with a state of the art 6 speed automatic transmission, a high tech 1.6 ltr engine with GDI and it can`t achieve respectable fuel economy for a car in its segment.
#152 of 157 MPG Is Only One Factor
by btatr
Jan 08, 2013 (6:45 am)
I never believed those fairly tale EPA numbers, and except for city only driving mpg, I'm pleased with my highway only and combined driving results. As I've stated before, everything in life is relative. If you are someone who is obsessed with mpg above all else, then the RIO probably isn't your kind of vehicle.
However, if you want a wide array of terrific features, which I described in my previous post, and enjoy driving this fabulous car for so many reasons, you'll be a much happier person. It's no secret that I love my RIO SX 5 door as I don't allow my disappointment with city only mileage to ruin an incredibly fun experience when I'm behind the wheel of my nimble SX.
I choose to concentrate on that long list of features which makes this is such a fabulous car for the money. I learned that lesson a long time ago, don't dwell on the negatives in your life, concentrate on all of the positives and you will feel so much better.
And best of all guys, I'm always afraid to say this, but I haven't had one single problem with my RIO SX in 13 months. My girlfriend's KIA Forte SX had one minor trim related issue in two years. Wow! That's what I'm talking about!
#153 of 157 Re: MPG Is Only One Factor [btatr]
by phill1
Jan 08, 2013 (8:12 am)
In order to keep the peace and not break my 2013 resolution that I would not continue this ridiculous banter, I will let you have the (Last) word, indeed. Odd that you refer to the EPA and its "fairtytale" Fuel Estimates. Guess my Ford Fiesta with its 1.6 ltr (non-GDI) engine and its clunky erky/jerky 6 speed automatic transmission, low H.P. and Torque must be a "Pixie". 33/35 mpg city and 41/43 mpg highway from day one with A/C engaged constantly. Not that`s what (I`m) talking bout! Happy New Year and may your love affair with your Kia Rio5 SX last a lifetime or until you trade it in, (till death do you part) as they say, lol.
#154 of 157 What's Important To You?
by btatr
Jan 08, 2013 (9:52 am)
When buying a new car ask yourself what's important. If you are like some of the negative thinking members in this forum who are literally obsessed with MPG and don't appreciate the wide array of outstanding extras packed with this vehicle, look elsewhere. However, if you want very good gas mileage plus a bevy of nifty features at an excellent price, then the RIO SX is your car. I literally love driving my SX, I can't wait to get behind the wheel every day of the week.
Here's a partial listing of the great features on the SX:
LED lighting on the front, rear, and side mirrors
Sleek, aerodynamic look and check out those nifty wheels
UVO, Jukebox, backup camera, folding outside mirrors
Lots of room for a car in this class and excellent comfort on long trips
It's not a sports car but it has tight, nimble handling plus brisk acceleration
A long list of safety features packaged with the best warranty in the industry
Outstanding workmanship and reliability
#155 of 157 Re: What's Important To You? [btatr]
by phill1
Jan 08, 2013 (10:34 am)
In the interest of "Full" public disclosure, you forgot to mention in addition to the long list of fabulous features on your 2012 Kia Rio5 "SX", this unabashed endorsement brought to you courtesy of Kia Motors America, Irvine, CA Seriously, if your not a (paid) shill for Kia, you should be. Such "religious" devotion! Period, case closed. Cheers I`ve never know even Audi or BMW Owners that shared you enthusiasm for their vehicles, really....Honest , I promise, not another comment from me in this Forum on this topic, EVER!
#156 of 157 What's Important To You? [phill1]
by btatr
Jan 08, 2013 (10:53 am)
Phil failed to live up to his promise to give me the last word.
Phill1 wrote the following about me, "if your not a (paid) shill for Kia, you should be."
I'm really tired of his personal insults and inability to debate the issues around KIA RIOs and avoid personal attacks. If Phill1 cannot stay on the subject of KIA RIOs, may I suggest he go to another forum where he can insult somebody else.
I love my RIO for the reasons cited in previous posts and couldn't care less what Phill1 thinks. Please read what I wrote earlier and decide for yourself what is important when making a decision to buy a new car. I think focusing solely on mpg is very short sighted and narrow minded, but that's my point of view.
If you understand how much you get for your money with the RIO SX, you might decide to give it a test drive. See if you like it as much as I do, as well as everyone who rides in it. Everyone who rides in my car showers it with praise. I can't say that about my old 2002 Ford Focus which was very dependable but way short on features and functionality.
Please note that I have a 2012 RIO SX model which I've mentioned a million times. I have no opinion whatsoever on the EX model because I have no experience with it. Everything I say is based solely on my car.
Jan 08, 2013 (10:55 am)
Regardless of how you feel about any other member, personally-directed comments are NEVER acceptable. If it happens again, this discussion will be permanently closed.