Last post on Dec 04, 2013 at 5:53 PM
You are in the Kia Rio
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Kia Rio, Sedan, Wagon
#230 of 239 Re: MPG gettting better! [skeptic101]
Sep 12, 2013 (10:00 am)
Very risky playing the pre-authorized credit card monthly fee roulette. I simply will not do that anymore. You give them too much power and if they decide in the future to charge you when charges are discovered before your next credit card expiry date, you then have only one recourse to dispute if you think you have a case. And this takes times...months in fact usually. This happened to me with a crooked internet company that kept charging me for internet yet did not provide the services. It took me too damn long to get the credit card company to believe me, but eventually I was able to PROVE my case. I hope the first stupid ^$%#* I called and asked to have my card cancelled who refused to cancel it the day I called her, got FIRED! Long story short, I kept getting billed by this crook, and while the CC company did reimburdse me for at least ONE of the 4 months charges, I was still left holding the bag for the rest. They were absolute idiots cuz I was a customer who charged basically everything every month on the card. And while I never carried a balance so they didn't get any interest out of me, they DID get their % take from retailers every month. And I never defaulted or made them wait for a payment..they had a dream customer and they screwed themselves for taking too long to condemn the crooked retailer.
I'd say you are taking a huge risk. Sirius could come along 2 years from now and bill you all those missed months PLUS cumulative interest and late fees until you cancel the pre-authorization and get a receipt (a reference #) for the request.
#231 of 239 Re: MPG gettting better! [gimmestdtranny]
Sep 12, 2013 (10:11 am)
I agree and thats why I never renew (anything) with automatic credit card or debit payment, period. Once I negotiate a deal with Sirius/XM to extend my service, I simply have them send me an Invoice for the agreed amount price and length of service and I mail them back a cheque with their bill.
#232 of 239 Oil Change: MPG Went Down
Nov 13, 2013 (9:26 am)
Since I purchased my 2012 SX, fuel economy numbers have been relatively consistent with my physical location. In the Carolinas my fuel economy was actually higher than it is in FL which surprised me. I already uploaded several posts on this bizarre difference because I thought FL mpg would be higher.
Nonetheless, my fuel economy in FL went down slightly the past few months and I couldn't figure out why until yesterday. I was filing my invoices and noticed the new FL dealer used 5W-30 oil instead of the preferred/recommended 5W-20 oil. This is the first time a KIA dealership (where I go for all my oil changes) did NOT use 5W-20.
The 30 weight oil is slightly heavier and I think it explains why my mileage has dropped by about 1 mpg.
#233 of 239 Re: Oil Change: MPG Went Down [btatr]
Nov 13, 2013 (10:03 am)
I thought this "thread" had ended. I just got my second year Kia Pre-Paid Visa Card loaded with $77.20 based on my mileage driven over the past 12 months. This was Kia and Hyundai`s apology for the (majority) of disappointed Buyers who have gotten dismal Fuel Economy results that never got close to the original EPA estimates. Odd, I got a check from Ford for $550 as well as all other 2013 C-Max Hybrid owners because they also inflated EPA Fuel Economy estimates with an average of 47 mpg which was later lowered to 43 mpg. Considering the size and weight of the Ford C-Max compared to the Kia Rio5, Ford`s numbers were a lot closer in (real time) driving conditions then Kia or Hyundai. Since there has been a handful of Posters on this Blog that consistently report outstanding Fuel Economy with their particular Vehicles, next time your at a Kia Dealership, ask any owners of a new Rio or for that matter any Salesman of the "feedback" they have received, in regards to gas mileage. Don`t confuse overall Owner Satisfaction with Fuel Economy!
#234 of 239 M/T's SX long-term test - 34.4 mpg average
Dec 02, 2013 (7:54 pm)
After 11 months and 26,621 miles. And we know guys who work for these car mags don't exactly baby their cars. This is with the MT.
A quote from the last test update in the January issue:
The Rio's fuel economy is holding steady at the pre-revision 34 combined mpg mark. Do I have to send Kia the difference in unspent gas?
#235 of 239 Re: M/T's SX long-term test - 34.4 mpg average [backy]
Dec 03, 2013 (8:36 am)
Your point is? Do you actually think that HKAG and Kia actually revised their Fuel Economy Window Stickers when there was no need to? Did both Kia and Hyundai start their Credit Card Refund Program because a vast (majority) of Buyers were happy and either reaching or exceeding their expected Fuel Economy. What you Kia Rio "lovers" don`t seem to get is that most Owners are dis-satified with the MPG their Sub-Compact Cars are getting, period! I can`t honestly say I "dislike",my 2012 Kia Rio5 LX. Its very good looking, has great handling, its comfortable, was priced right, etc. Its just not the fuel sipper it was advertised to be. Sure it has great pick up and braking ability., but 24-26 mpg city and 29-31 highway just does`nt cut it for a Vehicle in this size Class and weight. I`m trading it in later this Summer for the (New) 2015 Ford Mustang Convertible with a Eco-Boost 2.3 Ltr Engine. I`m sure it will exceed the Kia Rio in Fuel Economy too.
PS: If you feel (guilty) about your Kia Fuel Rebate, simply send it as a Donation to your favorite Charity, or you can send it to the Fund to compensate the majority of Kia Rio Owners that were deceived to begin with. My old 2006 Kia Rio5 got better MPG with its antiquated 1.6 (non-GDI) Engine with a 4 Speed Automatic Transmission. Explain that, please?
#236 of 239 2015 Ford Mustang
Dec 03, 2013 (2:08 pm)
After you spend a lot of money on your Mustang Convertible, please give us the courtesy of reporting your actual fuel economy numbers on the 2015 Ford. Of course you do realize, if there are any mpg savings, you will have lost that money on the purchase price of the car many times over.
It's hard to understand why someone who's so concerned about a few mpg will spend twice as much money on that car versus the RIO. Can you please explain?
#237 of 239 Re: M/T's SX long-term test - 34.4 mpg average [phill1]
Dec 03, 2013 (3:06 pm)
While I've only talked to a few other owners that stopped me in parking lots, I haven't heard a peep about their mileage, good or bad. One did ask me about the gas card. My brother-in-law loves the mileage he's getting on his, but he's comparing it to the Ford he traded. It's cut his gas expenses about 30%. My dealer service rep has heard no complaints either, but buyers around here aren't the types that go to the trouble of checking their gas mileage. I know how these magazines treat the cars that are loaned to them by the manufacturers. The Rio's ECU programs must suit them. I'm still getting ~38 on mostly 2 lane rural roads, ~40 on Interstate highway trips. I'm very happy with that.
#238 of 239 Re: 2015 Ford Mustang [btatr]
Dec 04, 2013 (8:43 am)
The explanation is very simple. First and foremost, I did indeed purchase my 2012 Kia Rio5 essentially as a cheap economical Sub-Compact Vehicle that I (thought) would get me the same equivalent gas mileage I was accustomed to with my 2011 Ford Fiesta Hatchback.....WRONG! While the Fiesta always got 31-33 mpg city and 41-43 mpg highway, the Kia (never) approached those numbers. When I finally do replace the 2012 Kia Rio5 with a 2015 Ford Mustang Convertible with its 2.3 ltr, Eco-Boost GDI Engine, it will be a different Class Vehicle, correct? Larger, heavier, a Convertible, bigger engine, and I would expect to get lower Fuel Economy. I am sure, regardless of what the 2015 Ford Mustang Convertible fuel mileage delivers in "real-time" driving conditions, it will (not) be worse then what the Kia Rio has been.The other comment that "I have never heard anyone at a Kia Dealership complain about their Kia Rio`s Fuel Economy or a Kia Sales Person not getting an ear full of negative feedback from previous buyers that have also complained about very disappointing gas milage is total nonsense". If that was truly the case, why did both Kia and Hyundai (both) initiate their Fuel Rebate and Credit-Card Program as well as changing their EPA Window Stickers and lower the EPA expected Fuel Economy estimates? Just for me? I happen to be the (only) one that complained about a B-Segment Car that gets the same Fuel Economy as a Full size Optima? If so, I feel (so) special. A lot of Kia Rio buyers owe me a huge "Thank You". Did I answer your question to your satisfaction?
#239 of 239 Re: 2015 Ford Mustang [phill1]
Dec 04, 2013 (5:53 pm)
Why are we continually talking about Fords on here? I thought this was supposed to be about the Kia Rio's MPG. Of all the commenters on here I find only one who complains about their Rio's MPG, yet this same commenter claims that everybody is unhappy with their Rio's MPG. Where are these people? I don't hear them on here or anywhere else. BTW, Consumer Watchdog was the organization that was instrumental in poking the EPA into checking Hyundai/Kia's MPG claims, not one individual.