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#13 of 26 Re: I might be biased... [fezo]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Nov 22, 2011 (6:34 pm)
I test drove a Sienna back in '98 and tried to crank it. It was running.
#14 of 26 Re: I might be biased... [lemko]
Nov 22, 2011 (7:30 pm)
Up until about 50 mph, my '02 Explorer is quieter and smoother than any of the Lexus RX models I have been in. Speeds above that, it goes the other way.
MY '11 Explorer is really quiet, although you can hear the tires when driving on concrete or the engine if you put some upper revs in it.
#15 of 26 Re: I might be biased... [explorerx4]
Nov 22, 2011 (7:41 pm)
It's interesting that at the moment my Solara convertible is quieter than my wife's Camry. Basically same car same year. A little of that is that Solara is a 6cyl while the Camry is a 4. The biggest part is what explorer's post mentions - tires. Hers needs new ones which may enter into it.
Of course mine has half the miles on it as well...
#16 of 26 Re: Quietest Interiors? [euphonium]
Nov 23, 2011 (11:13 pm)
Yeah, that would probably help some. Biggest problem is the old babbitt pounder is turning a 4:11 rear end. About 55 - 60 MPH is all she's got, and, the 216 doesn't have pressurized rod bearings, she's got oil dippers on her rod caps.
#17 of 26 Re: Quietest Interiors? [oldbearcat]
Nov 24, 2011 (5:40 am)
I don't really understand the technical nuances that you describe regarding your 216, but it's my understanding that the '53 Stovebolt on Powerglide equipped Chevys, and all '54 Stovebolts eliminated the deficiencies you described. Those later engines were supposed to be excellent, would you agree? Also, it's my impression that at least until the Stovebolt eliminated the old babbit bearings, Plymouth's flathead six was the best engine among the "low-priced 3." How do you feel the Chevy, Ford and Plymouth engines of that era compared?
Do you have an opinion regarding Ford's OHV I-6, introduced in '52 model cars? I understand that engine could outperform the optional flathead V8. For '54 Ford replaced the flathead V8 with a new OHV V8.
#19 of 26 less clutter equals quieter?
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Dec 19, 2012 (4:23 pm)
A reporter is looking for any drivers out there who can discuss the creative ways they've tried to keep their car clutter-free. There are so many gadgets, toys for kids, stuff for pets and other goods carried along in vehicles today, and he'd like to know how you manage or organize all these things inside your car. If you think you have helpful tips or ideas, please let us know at predmunds.com by Monday December 24th.
#20 of 26 Re: Quietest Interiors? [hpmctorque]
Dec 19, 2012 (9:03 pm)
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Yes, I think you're correct - the 53 Powerglide engines had a full pressure bottom end, and, are much better. I also owned a 37 Dodge back in the 60's with the flathead 6 - so I'm familiar with that engine as well. It had some design issues too. It only had 3 main bearings, so if you lugged the engine frequently, you'd pound the main bearings out of it. The flathead engine doesn't breathe as well as the OHV Chevy engine, so it makes a bit less HP/cubic inch displacement, and, is less responsive. Valve adjustments were much more difficult on the flatheads as well. The valve covers were on the side of the engine, and, getting the valves adjusted was difficult. The old Dodge flathead was a long stroke design, just like the Chevys of the day, so both make peak torque at low rpm. From the info I've read about the 216 in my Chevy, if the splash lube setup is set up correctly, its longevity is as good as the Dodge Flathead's. I don't know anything about the Ford 6 - have never messed with one.
#21 of 26 Re: Quietest Interiors? [oldbearcat]
Dec 20, 2012 (5:05 am)
I know this will be met with derision by those 'experts' who grudgingly admit they've never sat in one yet ridden or driven in one, but I think most would be surprised how quiet my Cobalt is on the highway, with its fifth gear and lack of wind or road noise. Absolutely more silent than either my coworker's Civic or Matrix. And at idle...you would be ocmpelled to try and start it while running. It is that smooth and totally quiet.
I replaced the tires with the same brand on it new, as part of the "XFE" package, and they are quiet.
The engine can be a little "thrashy" as you go up the gears, but not offensively so.
Other than that, our '93 Caprice Classic was probably the quietest car I've owned.
I can remember riding in a new '77 Caprice Classic. There was a complete absence of sound. It was notably quieter than our same-year Impala...mostly engine sound (Impala didn't have a 'hood blanket').
Our Malibu is quiet, but at 23K miles seems like the tires are getting noisy. That's another late-day 'enhancement' I don't seem to remember in older cars, unfortunately.
#22 of 26 Depends on the road content
Dec 20, 2012 (11:32 am)
New Blacktop is pretty quiet. New Concrete, if laid right, is quiet also.
Chip N Seal roads are not quiet to begin with so buy a Lincoln MKS.
Gravel roads on the way to Alaska are to be avoided in any luxury motorcar.