Last post on Nov 29, 2013 at 3:12 PM
You are in the Hyundai Elantra
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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback, Sedan
#716 of 774 Re: This Sucks [backy]
Jan 30, 2013 (7:31 am)
I'd also like to add that most of the complainers probably greatly underestimate the amount of city-like driving they actually do. For example, driving 25 mph with stop-and-go conditions on the freeway during rush hour counts as city driving, not Hwy. This is why you have to also look at the MPH calculation to understand why you're not getting the EPA numbers. If your average MPH is in the 20s, you're driving mostly city.
Another thing that a lot of people don't realize is that with the EPA City test, the avg idle time for a stop sign/light is about 14 secs. In the real world, the idle times can be as much as 180 secs.
#717 of 774 Re: This Sucks [gman4911]
Jan 30, 2013 (8:25 am)
I certainly understand that the EPA numbers are not promises of MPG. However, the last 4 cars I have purchased (Japanese and German) all met or exceeded their EPA estimates and that is driving in the San Fran Bay Area with traffic, hills and freeways. As well noted in other forums the Hyundai computers in their cars overestimate the MPG by 2 mpg as well. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do find it very offensive that Hyundai overestimated their EPA sticker numbers and their cars computers and frankly just blamed the drivers for lower EPA until they got caught. I am very pissed that consumers cannot count on the manufacturer (Hyundai) or the EPA in their car buying decisions to provide valid info. The vast majority of drivers are not making Hyundai's numbers (as validated by consumers and the vast majority of car review publications). Just compare what the publications get compared on all of brands of car tests to their EPA numbers and they are always much closer. I think Hyundai's offer of their puny mileage reimbursement is damage control for getting caught. I like my '13 Elantra GT (aside from the MPG) but won't buy another Hyundai. I just don't trust them anymore.
Feb 20, 2013 (10:22 am)
2012 Elantra GLS 25K Miles AVG MPG 27.5 Seattle W.A
First off. This is the twenty first centurey. A 2012 Elantra should get better or as good mpg as my 1990 Honda Civic EX, Avg 34.5 MPG. The Elantra will not even break 30MPG on a early Sunday morning on I.5 at 65MPH wth echo on from Seattle to Tacoma. The Honda 43.5 MPG doing the same trip. Second, the Elantra has come a long ways. Comfertable, decent power, great brakes,reliable. But the rear suspencion recieves a big fail. Conastoga wagon has better. I did not buy this car just for the milage, but was a big part of it.
#719 of 774 Re: mpg on a recent 400 mile roundtrip [g2iowa]
Feb 20, 2013 (10:36 am)
I agree, you cannot rely on just the trip computer. 20k on car. five fill ups from same station, Shell regular gas 10 percent methenal. AVG 27.5 MPG
#720 of 774 Re: Damn Skippy [eweiner]
Mar 05, 2013 (9:36 am)
I'm with you on that, I have the car 14 month's and still only get 24 combined....I filled out the form online and they said I would be compensated $14.00, what a joke. When I called they said I need to bring the car in and leave it a few days so they could test it out, but how would I get to work? I'm really not interested...I just want to get rid of it..but I'm stuck with a 3 year lease.
#721 of 774 In the real world ...
Mar 05, 2013 (8:09 pm)
I between June 26, 2012 and February 27, 2013 I put 11,769 miles on a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GLS Sedan with the Preferred Equipment package (home link, auto-dimming mirror, heated front seats, etc.) Frankly I LOVED the way the car looked, and compared to the 2006 Honda Civic LX Sedan I replaced with it, it was quiet, comfortable, spacious and, on all but the worst of roads, a better handler, as well.
But the one thing it NEVER has been is the equal of the Civic in terms of fuel economy. On the highway, the Civic–driven without any regard for fuel consumption (i.e., between 75 and 85 mph come hell or high water)–consistently delivered 38 mpg. If I was forced to drive nearer the posted limits–such as during the tail end of rush hour–the Civic would console me with as much as 43 mpg. Mixed city/hwy driving ranged from 28 to 32. NEVER, ever did the Civic return less than 26 mpg.
The Elantra? During a 12 mile stretch early one Monday morning coming back from Vancouver BC, I got snarled in nascent rush hour traffic on I-405 South just past Lynnwood that brought me down to between 45 and 55 mph, during which time I averaged 43 mpg on what is essentially a flat stretch of freeway. And that was the last time I saw average mileage greater than 38 mpg INDICATED–which must be emphasized because the indicated mileage is ALWAYS optimistic by no less than 2 mpg. The actual typical highway fuel economy I got was between 34 and 36 mpg if I kept my speed no greater than 65 mph and was lucky enough to not have to climb any hills. You see, the Elantra seems EXTREMELY sensitive to grades. As in "it sucks gas to generate the power necessary to get up even modest inclines."
Unfortunately, everywhere I drive involves cresting some kind of hill (I'm in the lowest part of Redmond, WA, and everything is uphill). Consequently, in city driving, I'm blessed if I can keep the mileage above 20 mpg (22 mpg indicated). Actually, it's not a blessing so much as me devoting myself to driving like an old lady. Which sucks enough that when I started reading that the new Honda Accord–despite being larger; heavier; burdened with larger, drag-inducing 18-inch wheels and tires; and more powerful and comfortable–gets REAL WORLD fuel economy better than my Elantra's REAL WORLD mileage, I went to try one out last week and wound up signing on the dotted line, leaving the Hyundai behind to charm then frustrate somebody else. Guess what, the Accord (I got the Sport sedan) actually DOES get significantly better mileage. In mixed driving so far–the same routes I traveled routinely in my Elantra–it's averaging 32 mpg (compared to 26 mpg max in the Elantra). I know: I'm comparing apples to oranges, but while waiting to take delivery of the Accord, I was giving a spanking new 2013 Honda Civic LX, and for the day that I drove it, it delivered even better fuel economy in the same mixed driving: 38 mpg. On the highway I saw sustained 43 mpg with the "ECON" button engaged. So, anyone concerned with maximum mileage: look beyond the Elantra's pretty face and check out the competition.
Speaking of frustrations (and disappointments), my Elantra didn't age well at all. By the time we parted company, the dash had developed a fistful of consistent creaks and buzzes–centered around that snazzy-looking, multi-part center stack–that drove me crazy! And the beige seats were stain magnets, even if they are relatively easy to clean.
#722 of 774 Re: POOR GAS MILAGE 2012 ELANTRA [kate007124]
Mar 28, 2013 (4:17 pm)
Oh man I don't know what to tell you. I bought a 2010 Elantra new and have always gotten between 32 and 34 mpg's. Once I decided to use a gasoline additive AND filled my tank with the highest octane stuff. For five full tanks in a row I actually got 38 miles a gallon. Mostly highway driving though.
But at 50,000 miles my tranny did go out. But the warranty covered a new one minus the $180 they charged me to flush it first while they were "guessing" what the problem was.. Other than that no problems.
#723 of 774 Re: POOR GAS MILAGE 2012 ELANTRA [creyes1]
Mar 29, 2013 (7:51 am)
The problem I see with that is , I shouldn't have to fill an Elantra with high octane,plus additive. I save that for my BMW, did you ever figure how much you're spending on all of that. My biggest problem is the city miles, I've never driven strictly city...... I'm afraid what I might get, but the 24 combined I'm getting is unacceptable.
#724 of 774 Re: POOR GAS MILAGE 2012 ELANTRA [creyes1]
Mar 29, 2013 (8:27 am)
The discussion centers around the current generation Hyundai Elantra, which bowed for the 2011 model year, not the previous generation such as your 2010 model.
Still, that's a lot of additional expense and trouble, using fuel additives AND high octane gas, to just match the kind of mileage my 2006 Civic easily achieved buzzing along at 3000 rpm and 80-plus MPH on the highway with ARCO 87 octane fuel and a trunk full of luggage and photo gear.
#725 of 774 Re: POOR GAS MILAGE 2012 ELANTRA [knocker81]
Mar 29, 2013 (8:41 am)
knocker81, you probably don't want to know what the city mileage would be like with combined mileage of 24. That's close to my combined mileage, and in the city alone, right after a fill-up, it wasn't uncommon for me to see average mileage in the high teens. Unlike my CVT Accord with a truly effective "ECON" mode, the Elantra's "Active ECO" drivetrain seems not to be efficient enough to recover in cruising/coasting the losses incurred idling at stoplights for sometimes a few minutes in the city. And the efficiency at idle of the Hyundai also seems significantly less (if ever there was a car that would benefit from a start/stop system, the Elantra is it). So, at least here in the mountainous Pacific Northwest, it takes a disproportionate amount of highway driving to balance the potential inefficiencies of city driving. By contrast, between Surrey and Vancouver BC, where city driving comprises fewer and briefer stop lights, and elevation changes are fewer and less extreme, my combined MPG hovered around 33 compared to combined MPG of 25 on Seattle's Eastside.